X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:45:00 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mx2.timesync.com ([67.218.99.10] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6644666 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:35:53 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.218.99.10; envelope-from=schroder@timesync.com Received: from smtp.timesync.com (smtp.timesync.com [68.169.58.126]) by mx2.timesync.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3897E22DC21 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:35:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25435 invoked by uid 108); 18 Dec 2013 18:35:18 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO DaveHP) (schroder@timesync.com@75.121.236.165) by Delta1.timesync.com with ESMTPA; 18 Dec 2013 18:35:18 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: From: "Schroder" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] The next level X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:35:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004F_01CEFC06.C236D5E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01CEFC06.C236D5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marv, Thanks for all you have done to keep the LML going. Count me in as a = founder. dave From: marv@lancair.net=20 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:00 PM To: LML Subject: [LML] The next level Dear LML'ers: =20 I'm a little late getting this out but the recent talk about supporting = the list coincides with my plans to improve the way we communicate so I = wanted to let you know what is underway. First, let me thank all of you who have supported the LML, other owners = and prospective owners for so many years. It is gratifying to have such = a giving community of people who are willing to share their talents with = the many Lancair folks around the world. Second, this list is many years old, filled with words of wisdom and = ideas and history that needs to be protected and accessible for future = users. Technology has made advances such that pictures, video, PDFs and = memory limits are not what they were 10 years ago and "mailing lists" = are almost extinct, replaced by blogs and software that allows a higher = degree of interaction, detail and information sharing. I am adopting = new technology in my business. I see new turbines, new avionics and the = products are all more capable and user friendly than what I was working = with way back when LML was born. It is time to move the LML forward = and, with the continued prodding and support of members, I have a plan = that I hope all of you will support. To accomplish the transformation will require support from a number of = people and many have already indicated support through private = discussions. The LML has typically required my attention to each = message and it is now time for me to acknowledge that a better system = for users can be implemented with the help of the community, leaving me = to enjoy the LML and use the extra time for my personal and business = life. The plan is to create an LLC where the assets of LML will be placed. = The bylaws will keep it true to the LML mission and allow it to grow in = a way that I believe is best for all LML'ers. I will be looking for = Founders to provide funding of US$100 each to get things underway. I = will ask for a few people to volunteer time to share the duties of = moderating content so I can free up some of my time and keep things = moving no matter where I am. My intent is allow LML to grow, to have = longevity and to cover its own costs going forward. What will it look like? I have decided to use a forum-based web = presence to permit a fast response and much more content and detail. We = rely on visuals today to share a large portion of our work and the site = will accommodate that. I want to improve searches, preserve our = historical messages, allow digests to people who want an email of = "what's happening" and much more. I will also allow a modest amount of = advertising. It will not be the in-your-face Google-style ads that = target individuals, but it will be specific to Lancairs, aircraft and = the things we use and need every day and they will be helpful and = peripheral -- not distracting or intrusive. This change will support = the LML in a fair manner. It will expose owners to many new products = and it gives suppliers a way to support our group. I want suppliers who = support the LML to have an opportunity to discuss their products and = provide direct support to owners. I also want the site to show all the = wonderful Lancair projects and let people see these examples so that our = efforts can be viewed and serve to motivate future builders. Changes are underway and it will take time. But, I want you to comment = on the changes, ask questions, volunteer to fill a position or suggest = features we don't have. I'm convinced we can benefit from upgrading = our site and I know it needs to be done. I want it to be painless and = enjoyable for everyone and I hope I have your support going forward. = Again, thank you for trusting me with your time and materials--I hope = LML will be better than ever. -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01CEFC06.C236D5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Marv,
Thanks for all you have done to keep the LML going.  Count me = in as a=20 founder.
dave
 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:00 PM
To: LML
Subject: [LML] The next level
 
Dear=20 LML'ers:   
I'm a little late getting this out but the recent talk = about=20 supporting the list coincides with my plans to improve the way we = communicate so=20 I wanted to let you know what is underway.
  First, let me thank all of you who have supported the = LML, other=20 owners and prospective owners for so many years.  It is gratifying = to have=20 such a giving community of people who are willing to share their talents = with=20 the many Lancair folks around the world.   Second, this list is many years old, filled with words = of wisdom=20 and ideas and history that needs to be protected and accessible for = future=20 users.  Technology has made advances such that pictures, video, = PDFs and=20 memory limits are not what they were 10 years ago and "mailing lists" = are almost=20 extinct, replaced by blogs and software that allows a higher degree of=20 interaction, detail and information sharing.  I am adopting new = technology=20 in my business.  I see new turbines, new avionics and the products = are all=20 more capable and user friendly than what I was working with way back = when LML=20 was born.  It is time to move the LML forward and, with the = continued=20 prodding and support of members, I have a plan that I hope all of you = will=20 support.   To accomplish the transformation will require support = from a=20 number of people and many have already indicated support through private = discussions.    The LML has typically required my = attention to=20 each message and it is now time for me to acknowledge that a better = system for=20 users can be implemented with the help of the community, leaving me to = enjoy the=20 LML and use the extra time for my personal and business life.   The plan is to create an LLC where the assets of LML = will be=20 placed.  The bylaws will keep it true to the LML mission and allow = it to=20 grow in a way that I believe is best for all LML'ers.  I will be = looking=20 for Founders to provide funding of US$100 each to get things = underway.  I=20 will ask for a few people to volunteer time to share the duties of = moderating=20 content so I can free up some of my time and keep things moving no = matter where=20 I am.   My intent is allow LML to grow, to have longevity and = to cover=20 its own costs going forward.   What will it look like?    I have decided = to use a=20 forum-based web presence to permit a fast response and much more content = and=20 detail.  We rely on visuals today to share a large portion of our = work and=20 the site will accommodate that.   I want to improve searches, = preserve=20 our historical messages, allow digests to people who want an email of = "what's=20 happening" and much more.  I will also allow a modest amount of=20 advertising.  It will not be the in-your-face Google-style ads that = target=20 individuals, but it will be specific to Lancairs, aircraft and the = things we use=20 and need every day and they will be helpful and peripheral -- not = distracting or=20 intrusive.  This change will support the LML in a fair = manner.  =20 It will expose owners to many new products and it gives suppliers a way = to=20 support our group.  I want suppliers who support the LML to have an = opportunity to discuss their products and provide direct support to=20 owners.   I also want the site to show all the wonderful = Lancair=20 projects and let people see these examples so that our efforts can be = viewed and=20 serve to motivate future builders.   Changes are underway and it will take time.  But, I = want you=20 to comment on the changes, ask questions, volunteer to fill a position = or=20 suggest features we don't have.    I'm convinced we can = benefit=20 from upgrading our site and I know it needs to be done.  I want it = to be=20 painless and enjoyable for everyone and I hope I have your support going = forward.  Again, thank you for trusting me with your time and = materials--I=20 hope LML will be better than ever.      <Marv> 

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