X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from outbound-jr2.exchangedefender.com ([65.99.255.229] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6644472 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:00:02 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.99.255.229; envelope-from=cberland@systems3.net Received: from remote.systems3.net (wsip-98-172-79-178.ph.ph.cox.net [98.172.79.178]) by outbound-jr2.exchangedefender.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id rBIKwccJ025941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:58:49 -0500 Received: from S3SBS11SERVER.Systems3.local ([fe80::5ce0:47a:d104:b76]) by S3SBS11SERVER.Systems3.local ([fe80::5ce0:47a:d104:b76%11]) with mapi id 14.01.0438.000; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:58:21 -0700 From: Craig Berland X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] 4P landing on snow Thread-Topic: [LML] 4P landing on snow Thread-Index: AQHO/DJopOY36w2yWEyl0NDDIUysL5pabXpA X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:58:20 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <03ED6C7C51EFA9489CA3844E6F7B6676071FB6E6@S3SBS11SERVER.Systems3.local> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.16.36] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_03ED6C7C51EFA9489CA3844E6F7B6676071FB6E6S3SBS11SERVERSy_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ExchangeDefender-Info: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ExchangeDefender-VirusScan: Found to be clean X-ExchangeDefender-From: cberland@systems3.net X-ExchangeDefender-MagicKey: 1388609930.91139@xb/LBA5Qtebhyyie7ECbBg X-Spam-Status: No --_000_03ED6C7C51EFA9489CA3844E6F7B6676071FB6E6S3SBS11SERVERSy_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralf, I have an acronym for snowy runway control.....A.R.I.Z.O.N.A. At 2:00 pm today: 70 degF Clear skies Calm winds :) Craig Berland N7VG Dear subscribers, We have winter in Ohio now and most of our runways are plowed but still do = have compacted patchy snow on it. Is there anybody on the list who can give me some advice on departing and l= anding a 4P on snow? How much runway do I need if braking action is very small? Does it behave l= ike normal or is it much different on snow? How do you hold it straight at = the start when the rudder is not working yet? Any input is appreciated. Thanks Ralf --_000_03ED6C7C51EFA9489CA3844E6F7B6676071FB6E6S3SBS11SERVERSy_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ralf,

I have an acronym for = snowy runway control…..A.R.I.Z.O.N.A.

At 2:00 pm today:=

70 degF

Clear skies=

Calm winds<= /span>

= J

Craig Berland

N7VG=

Dear subscribers,

We have winter in Ohio now and most of our runways a= re plowed but still do have compacted patchy snow on it.

Is there anybody on the list who can give me some ad= vice on departing and landing a 4P on snow?

How much runway do I need if braking action is very = small? Does it behave like normal or is it much different on snow? How do y= ou hold it straight at the start when the rudder is not working yet?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks

Ralf

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