X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:28:32 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com ([209.85.219.50] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6644466 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:58:15 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.219.50; envelope-from=toddlong1@gmail.com Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id n16so238838oag.23 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:57:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.204.41 with SMTP id kv9mr3149651obc.78.1387400261215; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:57:41 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [10.162.102.230] (243.sub-70-198-27.myvzw.com. [70.198.27.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h4sm1962937oel.3.2013.12.18.12.57.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:57:40 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Long Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-441ADF1D-DE09-4FB1-8142-FF12942BD185 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [LML] 4P landing on snow X-Original-Message-Id: <8C579DB4-16E0-4397-997F-A70BF3C332A8@gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:57:38 -0600 References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B511) --Apple-Mail-441ADF1D-DE09-4FB1-8142-FF12942BD185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralph if the braking action is that low add 2/3 to your normal landing dist= ance. Ease in on the power, the rudder should become effective fairly quick= ly. And obviously, a lower crosswind limitation. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2013, at 2:44 PM, wrote: >=20 > Dear subscribers, > =20 > We have winter in Ohio now and most of our runways are plowed but still do= have compacted patchy snow on it. > =20 > Is there anybody on the list who can give me some advice on departing and l= anding a 4P on snow? > =20 > How much runway do I need if braking action is very small? Does it behave l= ike normal or is it much different on snow? How do you hold it straight at t= he start when the rudder is not working yet? > =20 > Any input is appreciated. > =20 > Thanks > Ralf --Apple-Mail-441ADF1D-DE09-4FB1-8142-FF12942BD185 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ralph if the braking action is that lo= w add 2/3 to your  normal landing distance. Ease in on the power, the r= udder  should become effective fairly quickly. And obviously, a lower c= rosswind limitation.

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On Dec 18, 201= 3, at 2:44 PM, <bronnenme= ier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM> wrote:

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Dear subscribers,

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We have winter in Ohio now and most of our r= unways are plowed but still do have compacted patchy snow on it.<= /p>

 

Is the= re anybody on the list who can give me some advice on departing and landing a= 4P on snow?

 

How much runway do I need if braking action is very small?= Does it behave like normal or is it much different on snow? How do you hold= it straight at the start when the rudder is not working yet?

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Any input= is appreciated.

 

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks

Ralf<= /o:p>

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