Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #68586
From: Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Debunking myth of flying fast into headwind
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 08:18:00 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Yes, a discussion on the effect of a headwind is there, but I'm afraid the answer isn't.  So I put together a calculation that figured it out for airspeeds typical of my ES.  It turns out that with zero wind it is always more efficient to slow down, at least compared to any "normal" cruise speed.  But to be more realistic of what most of us might consider important, I typically us a number I call "effectiveness", and that is the MPG times the speed squared.  After all, most of us value speed quite a bit.  For effectiveness, you generally want to go fast.  For best MPG you usually want to add around 1/3 the headwind component to your speed.  For me, that means that while best MPG might be at 120 TAS with no wind, I would want to add 20 (maybe even 30) knots if I have a 60-knot headwind.  But above 140 to 150 TAS, the MPG is always going down with increased speed, regardless of any reasonable headwind.  I never fly as slow as 120, so it means that going faster always reduces fuel economy, headwind or not.  As far as "effectiveness", going faster gets to be a LOT better with a headwind.  Yes, go faster into a headwind, but I don't think that means going from LOP to ROP - that doesn't get enough speed to pay for itself.  And with a tailwind, definitely slow down - but I have a mental problem doing that!
Gary Casey 


Check *Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators*. The figure on page 169 and the
accompanying text on page 170 will answer your question.

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/media/00-80T-80.pdf

--Mark


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:00 AM, George Wehrung <gw5@me.com> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> On long range flights I always fly a Max range profile no matter the wind
> direction. Case in point I logged a 7.5 in a king air 200 flying from Lajes
> Azores to St Johns Newfoundland today. The winds got up to 122 knots in the
> face. But with the internal ferry tank we made it with 800 lbs to spare.
>
> Anyhow the guy next to me wanted to push it up saying we would spend less
> time bucking the wind but I owned the plane today and flew what I perceived
> a Max range AOA (no AOA installed) of about 3 degrees nose up and kept
> pulling the throttles back to keep her their. This attitude comes from 7
> yrs in king airs and knowing the charts. But I don't have the aero
> background to counter his argument.
>
> Can anyone help me out with research or otherwise?
>
> I know their is a number of TPS grads and much smarter aviators than I.
>
> George
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