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Subject: Re: [LML] Debunking myth of flying fast into headwind
From: Mark Sletten <mwsletten@gmail.com>
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Check *Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators*. The figure on page 169 and the
accompanying text on page 170 will answer your question.

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/media/00-80T-80.pdf

--Mark


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:00 AM, George Wehrung <gw5@me.com> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> On long range flights I always fly a Max range profile no matter the wind
> direction. Case in point I logged a 7.5 in a king air 200 flying from Lajes
> Azores to St Johns Newfoundland today. The winds got up to 122 knots in the
> face. But with the internal ferry tank we made it with 800 lbs to spare.
>
> Anyhow the guy next to me wanted to push it up saying we would spend less
> time bucking the wind but I owned the plane today and flew what I perceived
> a Max range AOA (no AOA installed) of about 3 degrees nose up and kept
> pulling the throttles back to keep her their. This attitude comes from 7
> yrs in king airs and knowing the charts. But I don't have the aero
> background to counter his argument.
>
> Can anyone help me out with research or otherwise?
>
> I know their is a number of TPS grads and much smarter aviators than I.
>
> George
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> --
> For archives and unsub
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Check <i>Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators</i>. The figure o=
n page 169 and the accompanying text on page 170 will answer your question.=
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/hand=
books_manuals/aviation/media/00-80T-80.pdf">http://www.faa.gov/regulations_=
policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/media/00-80T-80.pdf</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>--Mark</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:00 AM, George Wehr=
ung <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gw5@me.com" target=3D"_blank">g=
w5@me.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey guys,<br>
<br>
On long range flights I always fly a Max range profile no matter the wind d=
irection. Case in point I logged a 7.5 in a king air 200 flying from Lajes =
Azores to St Johns Newfoundland today. The winds got up to 122 knots in the=
 face. But with the internal ferry tank we made it with 800 lbs to spare.<b=
r>

<br>
Anyhow the guy next to me wanted to push it up saying we would spend less t=
ime bucking the wind but I owned the plane today and flew what I perceived =
a Max range AOA (no AOA installed) of about 3 degrees nose up and kept pull=
ing the throttles back to keep her their. This attitude comes from 7 yrs in=
 king airs and knowing the charts. But I don&#39;t have the aero background=
 to counter his argument.<br>

<br>
Can anyone help me out with research or otherwise?<br>
<br>
I know their is a number of TPS grads and much smarter aviators than I.<br>
<br>
George<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
--<br>
For archives and unsub <a href=3D"http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lm=
l/List.html" target=3D"_blank">http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/L=
ist.html</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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