X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:58:14 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc3-s8.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6639927 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:52:49 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.146; envelope-from=peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Received: from COL129-W12 ([65.55.34.136]) by col0-omc3-s8.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:52:12 -0800 X-TMN: [pOIy3axQjSJaAapyTgTF/L65FicSbSrO] X-Originating-Email: [peterpawaviation@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6e100347-a5fb-4526-827c-1504fdebfe98_" From: PETER WILLIAMS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: BUYER CAUTION. Lancair N484E X-Original-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:52:12 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2013 19:52:12.0764 (UTC) FILETIME=[25C691C0:01CEF9CF] --_6e100347-a5fb-4526-827c-1504fdebfe98_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI THERE i started out as a curious looker watching the market for Lancair 4/4P here is what i found out.. A LOT =0A= =0A= make sure that your friend is buying from the right person. =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= have him get title insurance =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= see this astonishing story about N484E =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= http://www.aviationcriminal.com/riggs/?p=3D271 =0A= =0A= FAA records shows Wright .. as owner =0A= =0A= http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=3D484E =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= ALSO =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= have him check the cost of insurance before buying =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= HERE IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN QUOTED =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= (i have 3800 hours=2C 170 in type=2C instrument ticket=2C 159 hours in 12 m= onths=2C =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= 2500 hours twin cessna time) =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= there is really only one market for Lancair 4P =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= the rates are impressive =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= $200k hull =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= $1m with 100/seat price $13=2C400 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= $10=2C000 deductible =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= just liability $3=2C200 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= BUT=2C WEIRDLY =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= liability for a Lancair 4 $586 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= $1m with 100/seat (because not pressurized) =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= i have chosen to go naked on hull on both planes as the costs are so=20 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= extraordinary =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= THEN THERE IS TRAINING =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Vital if your friend is going to survive the Lancair experience =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= the kit is an early build=3B no fast build here LIV076 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= AVIONICS SUPPORT =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Chelton 2-Tube EFIS=0A= Garmin=20 =0A= =0A= =0A= no good support and expensive=20 =0A= =0A= =0A= (search on LML for more info) =0A= =0A= =0A= Chelton has basically washed their hands of the homebuilt market =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Garmin MX-20 MFD=20 =0A= =0A= =0A= a great set =0A= =0A= =0A= BUT no longer supported by GARMIN =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =20 From: colyncase@earthlink.net Date: Sun=2C 15 Dec 2013 00:02:18 -0500 CC: lml@lancaironline.net To: tony.ketelaars@gmail.com Subject: [LML] Re: Lanceair Hi Tony=2C I don't know anyone out there but Craig Berland might. This is a perfect application for lml. Just send your message to lml@lanca= ironline.net(Of course you'll need to subscribe to see the answer if you ar= e not already). regards=2C Colyn On Dec 14=2C 2013=2C at 9:15 PM=2C Tony Ketelaars wrote:It is Whitman CA On Sat=2C Dec 14=2C 2013 at 9:05 PM=2C Colyn Case = wrote: =0A= White =0A= An what state? =0A= =0A= Sent from my iPhone =0A= =0A= On Dec 14=2C 2013=2C at 8:41 PM=2C Tony Ketelaars wrote: =0A= =0A= > Hi Colyn =0A= > =0A= > I hope every thing is well =0A= > =0A= > Have a question for you=2C a friend of mine is looking to buy a Lancair 4= P =0A= > It is located at Whiteman=2C tail # N484E =0A= > I wonder do you know the airplane and do you know anyone near to do a pre= buy inspection =0A= > =0A= > Regards =0A= > =0A= > Tony Ketelaars =0A= > =0A= > 905-335-0440 Cell 905-330-1268 =0A= > =0A= > C-GSQQ =0A= > =0A= =0A= = --_6e100347-a5fb-4526-827c-1504fdebfe98_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI THERE

i started out as a curious looker watching the market for Lanc= air 4/4P
here is what i= found out.. A LOT

= =0A= =0A=
make sure that your fri= end is buying from the right person.
=0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= have him get title insurance
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= see this astonishing story about N484E
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= http://www.aviationcriminal.com/riggs/?p=3D271
=0A=
=0A= FAA records shows Wright .. as owner
=0A=
=0A= http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum= _Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=3D484E
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= ALSO
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= have him check the cost of insurance before buying
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= HERE IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN QUOTED
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= (i have 3800 hours=2C 170 in type=2C instrument ticket=2C 159 hours in 12 m= onths=2C
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= 2500 hours twin cessna time)
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= there is really only one market for Lancair 4P
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= the rates are impressive
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= $200k hull
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= $1m with 100/seat =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B&n= bsp=3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B pric= e $13=2C400
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= $10=2C000 deductible

=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= just liability =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B = =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B=  =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B&nb= sp=3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B = =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B $3=2C200
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= BUT=2C WEIRDLY
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= liability for a Lancair 4 =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B&n= bsp=3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B = =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B $586
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= $1m w= ith 100/seat
(because not pressurized)
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= i have chosen to go naked on hull on both planes as the costs are so
= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= extraordinary
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= THEN THERE IS TRAINING
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Vital if your friend is going to survive the Lancair experience
=0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= the kit is an early build=3B no fast build here LIV076
=0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= AVIONICS SUPPORT
=0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= Chelton 2-Tube EFIS=0A= Garmin =0A= =0A= =0A=  =3Bno good =3B support =3B and =3B expe= nsive
=0A= =0A= =0A=  =3B =3B (search on LML for more info)
=0A= =0A= =0A= Chelton has basically washed their hands of the homebuilt market
=0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= Garmin MX-= 20 MFD
=0A= =0A= =0A= a great set
=0A= =0A= =0A= BUT no longer supported by GARMIN
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=


From: colynca= se@earthlink.net
Date: Sun=2C 15 Dec 2013 00:02:18 -0500
CC: lml@lanc= aironline.net
To: tony.ketelaars@gmail.com
Subject: [LML] Re: Lanceai= r

Hi Tony=2C

I don't know anyone out there but Cr= aig Berland might.

This is a perfect application f= or lml.  =3BJust send your message to lml@lancaironline.net
(Of course you'll need to subsc= ribe to see the answer if you are not already).

re= gards=2C

Colyn

On Dec 14= =2C 2013=2C at 9:15 PM=2C Tony Ketelaars wrote:

It is Whitman CA


On Sat=2C Dec 14= =2C 2013 at 9:05 PM=2C Colyn Case <=3Bcolyncase@earthlink.net>= =3B wrote:
=0A=
White
=0A= An what state?
=0A=
=0A= Sent from my iPhone
=0A=
=0A= On Dec 14=2C 2013=2C at 8:41 PM=2C Tony Ketelaars <=3Btony.ketelaars@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
=0A=
=0A= >=3B Hi Colyn
=0A= >=3B
=0A= >=3B I hope every thing is well
=0A= >=3B
=0A= >=3B Have a question for you=2C a friend of mine is looking to buy a Lanc= air 4P
=0A= >=3B It is located at Whiteman=2C tail # N484E
=0A= >=3B I wonder do you know the airplane and do you know anyone near to do = a prebuy inspection
=0A= >=3B
=0A= >=3B Regards
=0A= >=3B
=0A= >=3B Tony Ketelaars
=0A= >=3B
=0A= >=3B 905-335-0440  =3BCell 905-330-1268
=0A= >=3B
=0A= >=3B C-GSQQ
=0A= >=3B
=0A=

=0A=

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