wrote: >=20 > Peter, >=20 > It's wonderful you contributed to LML. It is indeed a great asset. I h= adn't read your letter to Marv carefully on the first pass but I think you a= re misinformed if you think that LOBO offers not much. Although I'm no lon= ger on the board of LOBO, and cannot speak officially for LOBO, I can say t= hat being on the board briefly only gave me more appreciation for the founde= rs of LOBO and all they do. Each of them puts in many hundreds of hours pe= r year on your behalf. >=20 > For those that are not aware, here are some of the activities of LOBO: > - created a comprehensive training syllabus and assisted instructors to be= able to deliver that syllabus. > - provided a newsletter with useful articles > - lobbied with the FAA on several initiatives including the current second= pilot initiative > - lobbied with the insurance industry to maintain and improve availability= of coverage to Lancair owners > - maintained relationships with EAA, NTSB > - reached out to new owners to help them get connected with available reso= urces, and answer questions > - organized the annual Oshkosh dinner event > - organized the annual "Landing" gathering > - provided ground school at the "Landing" > - organized the 2014 event in Mobile, AL at Continental headquarters > - answers numerous phone calls and emails you never see > - other stuff I've forgotten that hopefully someone else will add to this t= hread. >=20 > Expenses for doing all of the above have largely been born by the LOBO boa= rd members themselves.=20 >=20 > A couple expenses you should consider carefully: 1) your annual insuranc= e premium 2) the resale value of your aircraft. Both of these would improv= e dramatically if the Lancair safety record were correspondingly improved. = LOBO was founded to improve safety. It needs the best efforts of all its m= embers toward that end, and yes it's going to take some money. However, if= I were to save $3000 in one year on my insurance premium, that would pay my= LOBO dues for 60 years. Seems like a worthwhile investment to me. >=20 > I hope all will consider joining LOBO, giving some extra money, and, more i= mportantly, helping out. There is so much to do. >=20 > for more information, see www.lancairowners.com=20 >=20 > regards, >=20 > Colyn >=20 > On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Colyn Case wrote: >=20 > actually, although Marv doesn't push very hard on this, I think the sugges= ted donation is $50 per year. >=20 > On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:08 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote: >=20 > hi there >=20 > i have donated to LML >=20 > this site does not just happen; it happens because of Marv's dedication to= our LML >=20 > i urge you to make a donation; i gave $50.00 but if you gave $5.00 it woul= d help and show appreciation, >=20 > it is a wonderful asset; great people, great info and generally a "go to" s= ource. i have gotten much help that is just not available anywhere else. >=20 > peter >=20 > here is my note to Marv >=20 > Marv >=20 > thank you for your efforts without you there would be no LML >=20 > i have donated $50.00 >=20 > it is a bargain; when one considers what LOBO costs and relatively how lit= tle it offers compared to LML >=20 > yours >=20 > peter williams=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-50447353-2ED9-4121-9428-769EC1EDB609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I concur with you Colyn,

The LML that came out of the "fast packets" conceived and organi= zed by Jim Franz years ago has continued to be a priceless forum for Lancair= community members to share. Marv taking over this idea and successful= ly bringing it on line has provided huge benefits for us all.

On the other hand this is in no way an official organizatio= n that can bind us together to act as a group to interface with political, g= overnmental and other groups. LOBO provides that function and we are i= n a time when that particular function is greatly needed.

Hats off to both Marv and to the founders of LOBO. we should be= supporting both.

John

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 13, 2013, at 7:40 AM, Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:<= br>

Peter,

It's w= onderful you contributed to LML. It is indeed a great asset. &n= bsp;I hadn't read your letter to Marv carefully on the first pass but I thin= k you are misinformed if you think that LOBO offers not much. Althoug= h I'm no longer on the board of LOBO, and cannot speak officially for LOBO, &= nbsp;I can say that being on the board briefly only gave me more appreciatio= n for the founders of LOBO and all they do. Each of them puts in many= hundreds of hours per year on your behalf.

For tho= se that are not aware, here are some of the activities of LOBO:
- created a comprehensive training syllabus and a= ssisted instructors to be able to deliver that syllabus.
- provide= d a newsletter with useful articles
- lobbied with the FAA on seve= ral initiatives including the current second pilot initiative
- lo= bbied with the insurance industry to maintain and improve availability of co= verage to Lancair owners
- maintained relationships with EAA, NTSB=
- reached out to new owners to help them get connected with avail= able resources, and answer questions
- organized the annual Oshkos= h dinner event
- organized the annual "Landing" gathering
- provided ground school at the "Landing"
- organized the 2014 e= vent in Mobile, AL at Continental headquarters
- answers numerous p= hone calls and emails you never see
- other stuff I've forgotten t= hat hopefully someone else will add to this thread.

Expenses for doing all of the above have largely been born by the L= OBO board members themselves.

A couple expense= s you should consider carefully: 1) your annual insurance premium 2) t= he resale value of your aircraft. Both of these would improve dramati= cally if the Lancair safety record were correspondingly improved. LOB= O was founded to improve safety. It needs the best efforts of all its m= embers toward that end, and yes it's going to take some money. Howeve= r, if I were to save $3000 in one year on my insurance premium, that would p= ay my LOBO dues for 60 years. Seems like a worthwhile investment to m= e.

I hope all will consider joining LOBO, giving so= me extra money, and, more importantly, helping out. There is so much t= o do.

for more information, see www.lancairowners.com

regards,

Colyn

On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Colyn Case wrote:

act= ually, although Marv doesn't push very hard on this, I think the suggested d= onation is $50 per year.

On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:08 AM, PETE= R WILLIAMS wrote:

hi there

<= font color=3D"#AC193D" size=3D"4" style=3D"font-size: 16pt; ">i have donated= to LML
<= br>thi= s site does not just happen; it happens because of Marv's dedication to our L= ML
=
i urge y= ou to make a donation; i gave $50.00 but if you gave $5.00 it would help and= show appreciation,

it is a wonderful asset; great people, great info and g= enerally a "go to" source. i have gotten much help that is just not availabl= e anywhere else.

peter

here is my note to Marv

Marv<= br>thank= you for your efforts without you there would be no LML

i have donated $50.00

it is a bargain; whe= n one considers what LOBO costs and relatively how little it offers compared= to LML
<= br>you= rs
=
peter wi= lliams=

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