X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:31:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.rbr3.com ([72.15.229.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6637537 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:01:12 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.15.229.5; envelope-from=Shane@rbr3.com Received: from RBR-SERVER.rbr3.local ([fe80::61db:2999:1d44:afbf]) by RBR-SERVER.rbr3.local ([fe80::61db:2999:1d44:afbf%10]) with mapi; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 09:57:41 -0500 From: Shane Bangerter X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 09:57:40 -0500 Subject: RE: [LML] Re: LML is wonderful a great asset Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: LML is wonderful a great asset Thread-Index: Ac74EQn0UKCaP5RkSrmuRRPZmPbpYQAAlYQA X-Original-Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F86615B51FD0F24B80B59522E5CB0E7B137A9260B3RBRSERVERrbr3_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_F86615B51FD0F24B80B59522E5CB0E7B137A9260B3RBRSERVERrbr3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well said and I whole-heartedly agree!! Shane 89GG IVP From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Coly= n Case Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:41 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: LML is wonderful a great asset Peter, It's wonderful you contributed to LML. It is indeed a great asset. I ha= dn't read your letter to Marv carefully on the first pass but I think you a= re misinformed if you think that LOBO offers not much. Although I'm no lo= nger on the board of LOBO, and cannot speak officially for LOBO, I can say= that being on the board briefly only gave me more appreciation for the fou= nders of LOBO and all they do. Each of them puts in many hundreds of hour= s per year on your behalf. For those that are not aware, here are some of the activities of LOBO: - created a comprehensive training syllabus and assisted instructors to be = able to deliver that syllabus. - provided a newsletter with useful articles - lobbied with the FAA on several initiatives including the current second = pilot initiative - lobbied with the insurance industry to maintain and improve availability = of coverage to Lancair owners - maintained relationships with EAA, NTSB - reached out to new owners to help them get connected with available resou= rces, and answer questions - organized the annual Oshkosh dinner event - organized the annual "Landing" gathering - provided ground school at the "Landing" - organized the 2014 event in Mobile, AL at Continental headquarters - answers numerous phone calls and emails you never see - other stuff I've forgotten that hopefully someone else will add to this t= hread. Expenses for doing all of the above have largely been born by the LOBO boar= d members themselves. A couple expenses you should consider carefully: 1) your annual insurance= premium 2) the resale value of your aircraft. Both of these would improv= e dramatically if the Lancair safety record were correspondingly improved. = LOBO was founded to improve safety. It needs the best efforts of all its= members toward that end, and yes it's going to take some money. However,= if I were to save $3000 in one year on my insurance premium, that would pa= y my LOBO dues for 60 years. Seems like a worthwhile investment to me. I hope all will consider joining LOBO, giving some extra money, and, more i= mportantly, helping out. There is so much to do. for more information, see www.lancairowners.com regards, Colyn On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Colyn Case wrote: actually, although Marv doesn't push very hard on this, I think the suggest= ed donation is $50 per year. On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:08 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote: hi there i have donated to LML this site does not just happen; it happens because of Marv's dedication to = our LML i urge you to make a donation; i gave $50.00 but if you gave $5.00 it would= help and show appreciation, it is a wonderful asset; great people, great info and generally a "go to" s= ource. i have gotten much help that is just not available anywhere else. peter here is my note to Marv Marv thank you for your efforts without you there would be no LML i have donated $50.00 it is a bargain; when one considers what LOBO costs and relatively how litt= le it offers compared to LML yours peter williams --_000_F86615B51FD0F24B80B59522E5CB0E7B137A9260B3RBRSERVERrbr3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well said= and I whole-heartedly agree!!

 

Shane

89GG IVP

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Colyn Case
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:41 AM<= br>To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: LML is wond= erful a great asset

<= o:p> 

Peter,

 

It's wond= erful you contributed to LML.  It is indeed a great asset.   &nbs= p;I hadn't read your letter to Marv carefully on the first pass but I think= you are misinformed if you think that LOBO offers not much.   Althoug= h I'm no longer on the board of LOBO, and cannot speak officially for LOBO,=  I can say that being on the board briefly only gave me more apprecia= tion for the founders of LOBO and all they do.   Each of them puts in = many hundreds of hours per year on your behalf.

 

For= those that are not aware, here are some of the activities of LOBO:

- created a comprehensive training syllabus and assis= ted instructors to be able to deliver that syllabus.

- provided a newsletter with useful articles

- lobbied with the FAA on several i= nitiatives including the current second pilot initiative

- lobbied with the insurance industry to mainta= in and improve availability of coverage to Lancair owners

- maintained relationships with EAA, NTSB=

- reached out to new owners to he= lp them get connected with available resources, and answer questions

- organized the annual Oshkosh dinn= er event

- organized the annu= al "Landing" gathering

- provided ground school at the "Landing"

- organized the 2014 event in Mobile, AL at Cont= inental headquarters

- answer= s numerous phone calls and emails you never see

- other stuff I've forgotten that hopefully someone else= will add to this thread.

 

Expenses for doin= g all of the above have largely been born by the LOBO board members themsel= ves. 

 

A couple expenses you should consider car= efully:   1) your annual insurance premium 2) the resale value of your= aircraft.   Both of these would improve dramatically if the Lancair s= afety record were correspondingly improved.   LOBO was founded to impr= ove safety.  It needs the best efforts of all its members toward that = end, and yes it's going to take some money.   However, if I were to sa= ve $3000 in one year on my insurance premium, that would pay my LOBO dues f= or 60 years.   Seems like a worthwhile investment to me.

 

I hope all will consider joining LOBO, giving some extra money= , and, more importantly, helping out.  There is so much to do.

 

for more information, see www.lancairowners.com 

 

regards,<= o:p>

 

Colyn

 

On Dec 13, 2= 013, at 8:23 AM, Colyn Case wrote:

 

actually, although Marv doe= sn't push very hard on this, I think the suggested donation is $50 per year= .

 

On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:08 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote:<= /o:p>



=

hi there

i= have donated to LML

this site does not just happen; it happens beca= use of Marv's dedication to our LML

i urge you to make a donation; i= gave $50.00 but if you gave $5.00 it would help and show appreciation,
=
it is a wonderful asset; great people, great info and generally a "= ;go to" source. i have gotten much help that is just not available any= where else.

peter

here is my note to Marv

Marv

thank you for your efforts without you ther= e would be no LML

i have donated $50.00

it is a bargain; when= one considers what LOBO costs and relatively how little it offers compared= to LML

yours

peter williams 

&nb= sp;

 

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