X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 10:37:33 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6634615 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:27:26 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.80; envelope-from=farnsworth@charter.net Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20131211132651.JGBI6169.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:26:51 -0500 Received: from OWNERPC ([24.240.22.2]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 0DSr1n00E02iJEo05DSrVr; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:26:51 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ZL6PAgHb c=1 sm=1 a=mHRM3OX74vzkVKuopJY6mQ==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=y6YuVM4ZNeMA:10 a=kbCmrJV3AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=V63Dd0HO4XfcjT4LPCwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=QmKJt4GQbCEA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=8GBOkbp5LlUA:10 a=-G140sIySNnzGkpC:21 a=-Tk1fWFhYafQTW3W:21 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=2Vz3pOnUP-33QhCYeKcA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=dRb2mBUzetsA:10 a=TYMScbApamW2WD9_:21 a=8ApX64r7spFvOocd:21 a=mHRM3OX74vzkVKuopJY6mQ==:117 From: "Lynn Farnsworth" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Gap Seals X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:26:40 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <023c01cef674$a09ee450$e1dcacf0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_023D_01CEF64A.B7D00840" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQJSS4Zy6oZeVTaNliQ4zJbQWCUKAZlIT8cg This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_023D_01CEF64A.B7D00840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, =20 I don=E2=80=99t have any pictures of the foam. It is the type of foam = that is found in seat cushions. =20 I put the gap seal on top and bottom. =20 The link below is where I got my gap seals and zig zag tape. =20 http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm =20 Lynn =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = vtailjeff@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:39 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Gap Seals =20 Lynn, =20 Do you have a picture of what you mean by the foam? Do you put gap seals = on top and bottom? Where do you get the seals? =20 Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Farnsworth To: lml Sent: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 12:25 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Gap Seals Steve, =20 I do have foam compressed in the flap pocket. I use gap seals. I also = use ziz zag tape in certain spots that need help in keeping the flow = attached. =20 Lee Behel also changed the shape of the fuselage to try and reduce drag. = We refer to it as the whale belly. =20 The real secret for increased speed is=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. = =E2=80=9CBRUTE POWER=E2=80=9D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! However, drag reduction = and a slick surface helps the brute power go faster. =20 I use normal flap procedures at Reno. Darryl Greenamyers=E2=80=99s = Legacy doesn=E2=80=99t have flaps. =20 Lynn=20 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net = ] On Behalf Of Steve Colwell Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:11 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Gap Seals =20 Lynn, =20 When it comes to saving money, I don=E2=80=99t care how much it costs = (smiley face). You Reno racers have found a lot a little tweaks that we = could use in our =E2=80=9Ceveryday Legacies=E2=80=9D. What speed = secrets can you share? =20 Steve =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Lynn Farnsworth =20 Steve, =20 I applaud to on trying to increase speed by drag reduction. However, = suggesting that the =E2=80=9Ceveryday Legacy=E2=80=9D can gain 40 knots = of airspeed by doing so is a bit of a reach. Unless of course you want = to fly around with a higher than 10:1 compression ratio and 3000 RPM? (: =20 Lynn Farnsworth Super Legacy #235 TSIO-550 Powered Race #44 MMO Mach .60=20 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Steve Colwell Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:40 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Gap Seals =20 OK Doug, here=E2=80=99s another 4 for you. Put Home Depot Compressible = Foam Tape in the wing trailing edge flap pocket. I have been planning = to do this but just haven=E2=80=99t got around to it. Put in 8 more = =E2=80=9Ctricks=E2=80=9D and you are up 40 KNOTS! Don=E2=80=99t laugh = you guys, Lee Behel did it at Reno.=20 =20 Steve Colwell =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Douglas Brunner =09 =20 Any bets on the improvement with gap seals, etc? I am guessing 4 knots. =20 D. Brunner N241DB 700 hrs ------=_NextPart_000_023D_01CEF64A.B7D00840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jeff,

 

I = don=E2=80=99t have any pictures of the foam. It is the type of foam that = is found in seat cushions.

 

I put the = gap seal on top and bottom.

 

The link = below is where I got my gap seals and zig zag = tape.

 

<= a = href=3D"http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm">http://www.wingsandwhee= ls.com/page28.htm

<= o:p> 

L= ynn

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = vtailjeff@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:39 = AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Gap = Seals

 

L= ynn,

&= nbsp;

D= o you have a picture of what you mean by the foam? Do you put gap seals = on top and bottom? Where do you get the = seals?

&= nbsp;

J= eff

-= ----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Farnsworth <farnsworth@charter.net>
= To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Se= nt: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 12:25 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Gap = Seals

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>S= teve,<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

I= do have foam compressed in the flap pocket. I use gap seals. I also use =  ziz zag tape in certain spots that need help in keeping the flow = attached.<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

L= ee Behel also changed the shape of the fuselage to try and reduce drag. = We refer to it as the whale belly.<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

T= he real secret for increased speed is=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. =E2=80=9CBRUTE = POWER=E2=80=9D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! However, drag reduction and a slick = surface helps the brute power go faster.<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

I= use normal flap procedures at Reno. Darryl Greenamyers=E2=80=99s Legacy = doesn=E2=80=99t have flaps.<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

L= ynn <= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

F= rom: = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Steve Colwell
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, = 2013 12:11 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sub= ject: [LML] Re: Gap = Seals

&= nbsp;

L= ynn,<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

W= hen it comes to saving money, I don=E2=80=99t care how much it costs = (smiley face).  You Reno racers have found a lot a little tweaks = that we could use in our =E2=80=9Ceveryday Legacies=E2=80=9D.  =  What speed secrets can you share?<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

S= teve<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

F= rom: = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Lynn = Farnsworth

&= nbsp;

S= teve,<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

I= applaud to on trying to increase speed by drag reduction. However, = suggesting that the =E2=80=9Ceveryday Legacy=E2=80=9D can gain 40 knots = of airspeed by doing so is a bit of a reach. Unless of course you want = to fly around with a higher than 10:1 compression ratio and 3000 RPM? = (:<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

L= ynn Farnsworth<= o:p>

S= uper Legacy #235<= o:p>

T= SIO-550 Powered<= o:p>

R= ace #44<= o:p>

M= MO Mach .60 <= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

F= rom: = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Steve Colwell
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, = 2013 8:40 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sub= ject: [LML] Gap Seals

&= nbsp;

O= K Doug, here=E2=80=99s another 4 for you.  Put Home Depot = Compressible Foam Tape in the wing trailing edge flap pocket.  I = have been planning to do this but just haven=E2=80=99t got around to = it.  Put in 8 more =E2=80=9Ctricks=E2=80=9D and you are up 40 = KNOTS!  Don=E2=80=99t laugh you guys, Lee Behel did it at Reno. = <= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

S= teve Colwell<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Douglas = Brunner

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

A= ny bets on the improvement with gap seals, etc?  I am guessing 4 = knots.<= o:p>

&= nbsp;<= o:p>

D= . Brunner<= o:p>

N= 241DB 700 hrs<= o:p>

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