X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 07:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.252.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6633879 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:08:22 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.252.208; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9AF0F700567F4 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mnc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mnc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.106.197]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 171DDE000087 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:07:47 -0500 (EST) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gap Seals In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D0C40B6474D180_2664_28469_webmailstg-d01.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38227-STANDARD Received: from 12.110.229.82 by webmailstg-d01.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.147) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:07:46 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8D0C40B646B4BFC-2664-A233@webmailstg-d01.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.110.229.82] X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:07:46 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338952a790b30edb This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D0C40B6474D180_2664_28469_webmailstg-d01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Lynn, Do you have a picture of what you mean by the foam? Do you put gap seals on= top and bottom? Where do you get the seals? Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Farnsworth To: lml Sent: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 12:25 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Gap Seals Steve, =20 I do have foam compressed in the flap pocket. I use gap seals. I also use = ziz zag tape in certain spots that need help in keeping the flow attached. =20 Lee Behel also changed the shape of the fuselage to try and reduce drag. We= refer to it as the whale belly. =20 The real secret for increased speed is=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. =E2=80=9CBRUTE P= OWER=E2=80=9D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! However, drag reduction and a slick surfac= e helps the brute power go faster. =20 I use normal flap procedures at Reno. Darryl Greenamyers=E2=80=99s Legacy d= oesn=E2=80=99t have flaps. =20 Lynn=20 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Stev= e Colwell Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:11 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Gap Seals =20 Lynn, =20 When it comes to saving money, I don=E2=80=99t care how much it costs (smil= ey face). You Reno racers have found a lot a little tweaks that we could u= se in our =E2=80=9Ceveryday Legacies=E2=80=9D. What speed secrets can you= share? =20 Steve =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Lynn= Farnsworth =20 Steve, =20 I applaud to on trying to increase speed by drag reduction. However, sugges= ting that the =E2=80=9Ceveryday Legacy=E2=80=9D can gain 40 knots of airspe= ed by doing so is a bit of a reach. Unless of course you want to fly around= with a higher than 10:1 compression ratio and 3000 RPM? (: =20 Lynn Farnsworth Super Legacy #235 TSIO-550 Powered Race #44 MMO Mach .60=20 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Stev= e Colwell Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:40 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Gap Seals =20 OK Doug, here=E2=80=99s another 4 for you. Put Home Depot Compressible Foa= m Tape in the wing trailing edge flap pocket. I have been planning to do t= his but just haven=E2=80=99t got around to it. Put in 8 more =E2=80=9Ctric= ks=E2=80=9D and you are up 40 KNOTS! Don=E2=80=99t laugh you guys, Lee Beh= el did it at Reno.=20 =20 Steve Colwell =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Doug= las Brunner =20 Any bets on the improvement with gap seals, etc? I am guessing 4 knots. =20 D. Brunner N241DB 700 hrs ----------MB_8D0C40B6474D180_2664_28469_webmailstg-d01.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Lynn,
 
Do you have a picture of what you mean by the foam? Do you put gap sea= ls on top and bottom? Where do you get the seals?
 
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Farnsworth <farnsworth@charter.net>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 10, 2013 12:25 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Gap Seals

Ste= ve,
&nb= sp;
I d= o have foam compressed in the flap pocket. I use gap seals. I also use &nbs= p;ziz zag tape in certain spots that need help in keeping the flow attached= .
&nb= sp;
Lee= Behel also changed the shape of the fuselage to try and reduce drag. We re= fer to it as the whale belly.
&nb= sp;
The= real secret for increased speed is=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. =E2=80=9CBRUTE POWE= R=E2=80=9D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! However, drag reduction and a slick surface h= elps the brute power go faster.
&nb= sp;
I u= se normal flap procedures at Reno. Darryl Greenamyers=E2=80=99s Legacy does= n=E2=80=99t have flaps.
&nb= sp;
Lyn= n
&nb= sp;
= From: Lancair Mai= ling List [mailto:lml@lancaironli= ne.net] On Behalf Of Steve Colwell
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:11 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Gap Seals
 
Lyn= n,
&nb= sp;
Whe= n it comes to saving money, I don=E2=80=99t care how much it costs (smiley = face).  You Reno racers have found a lot a little tweaks that we could= use in our =E2=80=9Ceveryday Legacies=E2=80=9D.   What speed sec= rets can you share?
&nb= sp;
Ste= ve
&nb= sp;
 
Ste= ve,
&nb= sp;
I a= pplaud to on trying to increase speed by drag reduction. However, suggestin= g that the =E2=80=9Ceveryday Legacy=E2=80=9D can gain 40 knots of airspeed = by doing so is a bit of a reach. Unless of course you want to fly around wi= th a higher than 10:1 compression ratio and 3000 RPM? (:
&nb= sp;
Lyn= n Farnsworth
Sup= er Legacy #235
TSI= O-550 Powered
Rac= e #44
MMO= Mach .60
&nb= sp;
= From: Lancair Mai= ling List [mailto:lml@lancaironlin= e.net] On Behalf Of Steve Colwell
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:40 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Gap Seals
 
OK = Doug, here=E2=80=99s another 4 for you.  Put Home Depot Compressible F= oam Tape in the wing trailing edge flap pocket.  I have been planning = to do this but just haven=E2=80=99t got around to it.  Put in 8 more = =E2=80=9Ctricks=E2=80=9D and you are up 40 KNOTS!  Don=E2=80=99t laugh= you guys, Lee Behel did it at Reno.
&nb= sp;
Ste= ve Colwell
&nb= sp;
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Douglas Brunn= er
&nb= sp;
Any= bets on the improvement with gap seals, etc?  I am guessing 4 knots.<= /span>
&nb= sp;
D. = Brunner
N24= 1DB 700 hrs
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