X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:08:02 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.26] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with SMTP id 6633795 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:40:43 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.229.26; envelope-from=arrow54t@yahoo.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2013 20:40:08 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.129] by nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2013 20:37:13 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.171] by tm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2013 20:37:13 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.162] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2013 20:37:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2013 20:37:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 436625.42672.bm@omp1028.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 31166 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 2013 20:37:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5SmQwFpZ0shuBusnBhi3ifYx16sJgjpQ3K1osberc0qRvjejEF9bHLmY+TAvJ+ZWnz2ZMm2RGkcQuf3uPOWjpZR/kYEqaRYV6RGOlpJm5PJWxUbuv/ESQ8D2CK7VUkF7wARAxCNC7mZJB2q34OdS5WLeBs6nGtDC1FpEDhCgsr0=; X-YMail-OSG: fJh45OcVM1nTdSMi7PoylM9LXRAQNvfybrALznspwIU3VXQ _F4_mmXkdLqi1sU_qpJDqhHbxGNayRYaKEVu8zCw7oP2WRNM.Au8XHFg_S4. ms_DIn2ohzwWD_Rba9SgmwmjSq22xWc0EmieifBF9Gb9mKupQPwT0VJueOn9 uaf3cfiO0rNClg3IIBV655VKJ4ZibbuJaQj_4hJXEy8eI126u1BXuQeHf1yW HrdGbzXLMhv1z0ISaXrU.1WMrkvfCOM3GMP21XW6ltMX3bL.e11tAwB5VXtl 2j8tPIWhHvTiZ52pOVqEUU0mTEka5ys8qXsbbj5jjOg3iFvs5uXea73oMbrv TOIqHvihlceKijW36cwqNnqnl1KJd.RgQ83gR.x7odvr9TS3iEIH65BbGK0z cjZujZSeQ.YCjjdkRxDgDZOmn32cMDvp6kD1BQaAgID.bF7n9K.L2L7P4Kyt cDemJWiNAyWr7fx7yg58uDlu1RfbfU9z9zMQh1UCKMIon2S3wPQdy0jUlCRy NCYCdL6vRaertz72Yje79_Jtvg2I_WLtWayijMVJ_RNMuXlo_VjAoStfWg5X HlfhpJs4nAlanPvr_ Received: from [107.217.146.43] by web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 12:37:13 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,U3RldmVuLCBJIGRvIG5vdCBoYXZlIGFueSBwaG90b3MsIGJ1dCB3aWxsIGJlIGdsYWQgdG8gdGFrZSBzb21lIG5leHQgdGltZSBJIGFtIG91dCBhdCB0aGUgYWlycG9ydC4gwqBJdCB3aWxsIHByb2JhYmx5IGJlIHRoaXMgd2Vla2VuZC4gwqBJJ2xsIHBvc3QgdGhlbSBhdCB0aGF0IHRpbWUuCk1pa2UKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogU3RldmVuIEJyYWRmb3JkIDxibXM1NjU2QGdtYWlsLmNvbT4KVG86IGxtbEBsYW5jYWlyb25saW5lLm5ldCAKU2VudDogTW9uZGF5LCABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.169.609 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1386707833.98339.YahooMailNeo@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 12:37:13 -0800 (PST) From: T and M Salzman Reply-To: T and M Salzman Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LIVP Broken screw on door handle X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-965327069-1834821431-1386707833=:98339" ---965327069-1834821431-1386707833=:98339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steven, I do not have any photos, but will be glad to take some next time I= am out at the airport. =A0It will probably be this weekend. =A0I'll post t= hem at that time.=0AMike=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: = Steven Bradford =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ASent: Mo= nday, December 9, 2013 7:00 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: LIVP Broken screw on do= or handle=0A =0A=0A=0AMike,=A0=0A=0AAre you able to post a photo of your so= lution? =A0Thanks.=A0=0A=0A=0ASteven=A0=0A=A0=0A=0AOn Dec 9, 2013, at 6:45,= YahooMail wrote:=0A=0A=0AI took my door handle to a m= achine shop and had them weld two ~1/8" pins to the removable handle and dr= ill two corresponding holes in the end face of the associated shaft. =A0I t= hink it cost around $75. =A0I feel it was well worth it. =A0Such a poor des= ign in the first place, what a pity. =A0So, the screws hold the handle in p= osition, but the pins take the shear loading. =A0Applied loctite to the tin= y screws. =A0The finish was damaged on the handle where the welding was don= e, but it is not easily noticeable.=0A=0AI had sheared several screws befor= e coming up with this solution. =A0Has been in service with no squawks for = 4 years.=0A=0AMike Salzman=0ALNCE=0AFairfield, CA=0A=0AOn Dec 6, 2013, at 7= :56, wrote:=0A=0A=0A=0A>Posted for "Randy Hartman"=0A:=0A>=0A>> Well, it has happened again and I am wonde= ring how often it happens.=A0=A0"It"=0A>> refers to=0Athe screw shearing of= f on the door handle of a Lancair IV P.=0A>> =0A>> I am also wondering how = everyone deals with the broken screw.=0A>> =0A>> .......................=0A= > ---965327069-1834821431-1386707833=:98339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steven, I do not have any p= hotos, but will be glad to take some next time I am out at the airport. &nb= sp;It will probably be this weekend.  I'll post them at that time.
Mike

From: Steven Bradford <bms5656@gmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
<= b>Sent: Monday, December 9, 2= 013 7:00 AM
Subject: [= LML] Re: LIVP Broken screw on door handle

=0A
Mike,=  

Are you able to post a photo of your soluti= on?  Thanks. 

Steven 
 

=
On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:45, YahooMail <arrow54t@yahoo.com> wrote:

I took = my door handle to a machine shop and had them weld two ~1/8" pins to the re= movable handle and drill two corresponding holes in the end face of the ass= ociated shaft.  I think it cost around $75.  I feel it was well w= orth it.  Such a poor design in the first place, what a pity.  So= , the screws hold the handle in position, but the pins take the shear loadi= ng.  Applied loctite to the tiny screws.  The finish was damaged = on the handle where the welding was done, but it is not easily noticeable.

I had sheared se= veral screws before coming up with this solution.  Has been in service= with no squawks for 4 years.

Mike Salzman
LNCE
Fairfield, CA

On Dec 6, 2013, at 7:56, <marv@lancair.net> wrote:


Posted for "Randy Hartman"=0A<randy@aoaircrafters.com>:

> Well, it has happened= again and I am wondering how often it happens.  "It"
> ref= ers to=0Athe screw shearing off on the door handle of a Lancair IV P.
&g= t;
> I am also wondering how everyone deals with the broken screw.>=0A
> .......................


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