X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 16:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc3-s15.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.153] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6623603 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:42:43 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.153; envelope-from=peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Received: from COL129-W14 ([65.55.34.137]) by col0-omc3-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 3 Dec 2013 06:42:09 -0800 X-TMN: [obilDsRilYqm7W4z0fJspMfoD+Ecta+b] X-Originating-Email: [peterpawaviation@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1d6c3c05-764f-47a7-9d39-3919df554d96_" From: PETER WILLIAMS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Solution: stuck starter solenoid X-Original-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:42:08 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2013 14:42:09.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[D83CCFC0:01CEF035] --_1d6c3c05-764f-47a7-9d39-3919df554d96_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi there stuck starter is a problem that easily addressed with an indicator light th= at is on when the starter is engaged. Cessna has a service bulletin for all twin Cessna=2C in USA a recommendatio= n. out of the USA it is a requirement to have an indicator light for the s= tarting when cranking peter=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri=2C 29 Nov 2013 18:53:02 -0500 From: pete@leapfrogventures.com Subject: [LML] Re: stuck starter solenoid The VP-200 already has the capability to show a stuck starter. They have a= n input that goes on the starter side of the starter contactor that lights = an annunciator when the starter is powered. I made mine a red background w= ith white lettering. If this annunciator remains lit after releasing the s= tart soft key=2C then your contactor is stuck closed. Just showing power t= o the contactor coil doesn=92t solve the problem=2C as you need to monitor = the line going to the starter=2C not the coil power. You should find the = configuration settings in the Annunciator page (assuming the wire to the st= arter is installed on your plane). Pete From: Gordon Porter [mailto:ghp@tru= stedwealthadvisors.com]=20 Sent: Thursday=2C November 28=2C 2013 10:27 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: RE: [LML] stuck starter solenoid That is a great idea=2C Paul. I = have the VP-200=2C so I can see the current draw and I can see the starter = circuit energized on the screen=2C but that would show green for "on" in th= e VP world. I much rather have a light as you suggest. I shudder at the t= hought of embarking on a long flight under the condition I had. Should be = pretty easy to do. The experiment continues!! Gordon = --_1d6c3c05-764f-47a7-9d39-3919df554d96_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hi there

stuck starter is a problem that easily addressed with an indic= ator light that is on when the starter is engaged.

Cessna has a service bulletin for all twin Ce= ssna=2C in USA a recommendation. =3B out of the USA it is a requirement= to have an indicator light for the starting when cranking

peter

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Fri=2C 29 Nov 2013 18:53:02 -05= 00
From: pete@leapfrogventures.com
Subject: [LML] Re: stuck starter s= olenoid

The VP-200 already has the capability to show a stuck= starter. =3B They have an input that goes on the starter side of the s= tarter contactor that lights an annunciator when the starter is powered.&nb= sp=3B I made mine a red background with white lettering. =3B If this an= nunciator remains lit after releasing the start soft key=2C then your conta= ctor is stuck closed. =3B Just showing power to the contactor coil does= n=92t solve the problem=2C as you need to monitor the line going to the sta= rter=2C not the coil power. =3B =3BYou should find the configurati= on settings in the Annunciator page (assuming the wire to the starter is in= stalled on your plane).

=3B

Pete

=3B

= From: Gordon Porter [mailt= o:ghp@trustedwealthadvisors.com]
Sent: Thursday=2C November 28=2C 2013 10:27 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: RE: [LML] stuck starter s= olenoid

=3B=

That is a= great idea=2C Paul. =3B I have the VP-200=2C so I can see the current = draw and I can see the starter circuit energized on the screen=2C but that = would show green for "on" in the VP world. =3B I much rather have a lig= ht as you suggest. =3B I shudder at the thought of embarking on a long = flight under the condition I had. =3B Should be pretty easy to do.

= =3B

The experiment continues!!

=3B

Gordon

=3B

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