wrote: >=20 > splitting this thread from John's. > good tape. What would you have done and when? > It's a turbine with tons of climb power and boots and you've seen moderate= ice before. >=20 > a) stayed below IMC > b) not entered IMC until you were guaranteed a continuous climb to fl200 > c) accept clearance as given accident pilot and then violate clearance and= continue climbing once icing got beyond light, declare emergency=20 > d) descend as soon as you saw ice > e) something else >=20 > Colyn >=20 > On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:31 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote: >=20 > HI THERE >=20 > i came across this AOPA report on a TBM that crashed 17 minutes after taki= ng off from TETERBORO >=20 > i remember the news report. >=20 > in many ways a TBM performance envelop is similar to our LNC4; admittedly n= ot many Lancair aircraft=20 > have full de-ice equipment, but we could easily find ourselves in a simila= r situation. >=20 > FIVE MINUTES INTO THE ICING, and the plane is out of control >=20 > http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live.aspx?watch=3D9CC22A1C-9960-43A5-AC03-3757498= BE36C&WT.mc_sect=3Dtts&WT.mc_id=3D131108epilot >=20 > it is hard to stay vigilant, but that is how we get to be old pilots >=20 >=20 > peter >=20 --Apple-Mail-63C5CAC9-8143-4431-A264-DD1880768D1A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For those that have either TKS or ther= mawing on their airplanes have you ever been in anything more than trace or &= nbsp;light icing? If so how did the system and the airplane perform?

The key with boots or any system that cycles if you're not= able to regain some of the airspeed loss that occurred before the boots cyc= led it's time to go down.

Typing and grammar errors courtesy of Siri a= nd the iPhone.

On Nov 8, 2013, at 13:37, Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:<= br>

splitting this thread from John's.
good tape. What would you h= ave done and when?
It's a turbine with tons of climb power and boots and= you've seen moderate ice before.

a) stayed below I= MC
b) not entered IMC until you were guaranteed a continuous climb= to fl200
c) accept clearance as given accident pilot and then vio= late clearance and continue climbing once icing got beyond light, declare em= ergency
d) descend as soon as you saw ice
e) somet= hing else

Colyn

On Nov 8, 2= 013, at 7:31 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote:

HI THERE

i came across this AOPA report on a TBM= that crashed 17 minutes after taking off from TETERBORO

i remember t= he news report.

in many ways a TBM performance envelop is similar to o= ur LNC4; admittedly not many Lancair aircraft
have full de-ice equipment, but we could easily find= ourselves in a similar situation.

FIVE MINUTES INTO THE ICING, and t= he plane is out of control

http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live.aspx?= watch=3D9CC22A1C-9960-43A5-AC03-3757498BE36C&WT.mc_sect=3Dtts&WT.mc_= id=3D131108epilot

it is hard to stay vigilant, but that is how we= get to be old pilot= s

peter

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