X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 09:10:31 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.114.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6580102 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 08:45:23 -0500 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.109.114.70; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [66.196.81.157] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2013 13:44:49 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.49] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2013 13:44:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2013 13:44:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 106753.33761.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 6OZCIqQVM1nBvX4KZ_htB9dYx.L4TcEl9VCglwnXYz8aXO. 3Wv9qATod1fj2loeEFgXgJ1bEb.AT3DH3gvaTdRsylirgPZNy_IzBW7Tpd8j pZN8qggop9Xz85.bO1QPdYbIlEdfuB5g11WmkyiND0An3NQF4INP7hxic6KG rSRr.JBKH6guXukRACd46bp4fyTqUNGl3.9Cwn9X72rq11mJWZq2_v9OR8a1 GCSYS7HcBCnI8G016Ol2RFqH0ruEpwhnA3Roc_nlzoY3a17mOK6cCWIs0fNk aihrmwrFNINnWTBgV8fBuZsfEdewc3vnNWwkps4xFeXtoNnDkMshzt1_qaBz adZgDz.WxfHtG7yur6ZymcK6Da7b5ITw5gtQHvPnM7xzcvVrh.fgjDLrUJCb CE3l0MrEqK7b_R8XyZtSR7cwHjNdw_dKfxNgr_MqQuNu2ntqLG36D0iI1W4g saJyjAwW3VXGvVI7ei5UMQ2SCfgC7lO8vuTsvNf5mt4yqFf7kjA20.4AnOWt PRt4Ynu1RBF9.gnuyxrl21F.zD5HDQGBZQkC8ib5GcF7LyYxSPhf70lPk81v kaHhViQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml X-Rocket-Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@72.64.81.250 with ) by smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Nov 2013 05:44:48 -0800 PST From: Charles Brown Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--349720863 Subject: Re: Legacy Canopy Problem X-Original-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 07:44:48 -0600 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-1--349720863 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm with Mike. For each airplane I've owned or flown, I've put together = a 1-page checklist of my own. =20 A contract flight instructor who was working for Lancair recommended = that the pre-takeoff "Canopy Down" check include reaching overhead with = both hands and pushing up on the canopy frame hard. One reason that's a = good idea is because it's almost impossible to forget a major physical = move like that. And then I check the handle full down and the warning = light off. From: Mike Larkin Date: November 6, 2013 12:24:54 PM CST To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy Canopy Problem Jeff, One item you left out on why pilots don't use checklists... THEY ARE = TOO LONG! I did a ride a few weeks ago with a guy in a 172 Cessna. The = checklist had over 100 items on it. I wouldn't blame any pilot for not = using this checklist. A 414 I manage has a checklist with over 80 items = on it... In contrast: My test card for a return to service after heavy = check on an Airbus 321 only has 30 items on the complete flight test = card. Our normal checklist for the same airplane only has 20 items for = before taxi, before takoff and before landing combined... General = aviation needs to get in the human factors circle.... Human Factors is = the real issue here.. Mike Larkin --Apple-Mail-1--349720863 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii



From: Mike Larkin <legacyl2k@gmail.com>
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Date: = November 6, 2013 12:24:54 PM CST
Subject: = Re: [LML] Re: Legacy Canopy = Problem


Jeff,

One item you left out on why = pilots don't use checklists...  THEY ARE TOO LONG!  I did a = ride a few weeks ago with a guy in a 172 Cessna.  The checklist had = over 100 items on it.  I wouldn't blame any pilot for not using = this checklist.  A 414 I manage has a checklist with over 80 items = on it...  In contrast:  My test card for a return to service = after heavy check on an Airbus 321 only has 30 items on the complete = flight test card.  Our normal checklist for the same airplane only = has 20 items for before taxi, before takoff and before landing = combined...  General aviation needs to get in the human factors = circle....  Human Factors is the real issue here..

Mike Larkin


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