X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 07:59:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm19-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.95] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6579424 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:07:07 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.95; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.100.102] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2013 22:06:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.175] by tm101.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2013 22:06:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2013 22:06:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 693332.80333.bm@omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 84345 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2013 22:06:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FwCcgwlIs+sb8hThIuWVcqwr7OpV4DBOAz67M4Y279UbFacKkhduW/PntQG3qFWZD73gQV1n5DagtINTJOoBM+T38p8RGNxBIPDhfglemiCAyRCLLXU62/X0gF2KXNlKKr/PwHUT9c2wRP3Z1GYVGS2rLDf24PIqSmK3JOVo0wQ=; X-YMail-OSG: R0TC.IAVM1kCBnRUp510G2tEpzfUIVxJNLdEKKDII3ZbLho m_IgZxjPa2a_GQgUhTpL7OmxPfiZD3jKe9wJVvB3df6YSDCrMCtCOeUy3M0g uhuBhwd7tse3l_XCRO_uZllia6moXaiRd6ym6JW49YaG5jYc2MJKbFSyT4ya XXn59pibjurriacb9YuSqLDiKE3rcXxo_vvUB4QGSPlQmfm4.tyUV0HS7dE_ 4ZNWmQpxhZ0pMcEhlNnpRE8LtBlDmnK11QeVGGdoysooHO7BKK6s_b118mDd Zwn0M1uNRHKGBsgS90ScfPjlALjerTloCXx4QQfR9Y4GoUyaFBb36mDEfOt0 Hlo3Nj0uLGw0w79LWw4hCjRqM_2z_Idrn3UP_VUWXUvVyotfYdDGL1avkkjW YY0O7vkgNwMLXobSgJm4fWxqRYfYwrFnhKFjBEpYbzL.nxYlns8d0XJAF7ii XI6KpaiZEf5zuu9QToDcsY7AYXROSjJ_Vj3vbSTQF09Xs8uAogIbyH.OUlB. KRFyjQ1EFucXRSiSUM2TiPeHqNhvYO_GXeK3wyqjeSozKQEnxYweq9K8p6RN jZ25SlNgpHkStBO14z0vCwkOhvixd9udYreKzlvZXsTn0cw-- Received: from [97.92.63.83] by web120103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:06:30 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,WWlrZXMhIMKgSSBoYXZlIG9ubHkgaGVhcmQgYWJvdXQgb25lIEVTIGFuZCBvbmUgQ29sdW1iaWEgdGhhdCBoYWQgYSBkb29yIG9wZW4gYW5kIHdoYXQgSSBoZWFyZCB3YXMgdGhhdCB0aGVyZSB3YXMgInNvbWUgZGFtYWdlIiB0byB0aGUgc3RhYmlsaXplci4gwqBTb3VuZHMgd29yc2UgdGhhbiB0aGF0ISDCoEFzIGJlc3QgSSBrbm93LCB0aGUgdHdvIGFpcmNyYWZ0IHRoYXQgbG9zdCB0aGVpciBkb29yIGJvdGggaGFkIHRoZSAiZWFybHkiIGRlc2lnbiB3aXRoIHR3byBwaW5zIHRoYXQgaG9sZCB0aGUgZG9vciABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.161.596 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1383775590.84172.YahooMailNeo@web120103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 14:06:30 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Legacy Canopy Problem X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List , "Lancair_ES@yahoogroups.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-955686164-350436460-1383775590=:84172" ---955686164-350436460-1383775590=:84172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yikes! =A0I have only heard about one ES and one Columbia that had a door o= pen and what I heard was that there was "some damage" to the stabilizer. = =A0Sounds worse than that! =A0As best I know, the two aircraft that lost th= eir door both had the "early" design with two pins that hold the door shut.= =A0The later ES's like mine have the IV-style over-center latches. =A0Ther= e has been an argument made that these can't come open in flight, as the ou= tward force on the door holds the hook engaged. =A0I don't know if that is = true, but I've not heard of a IV door that opened in flight. =A0Regardless,= I have a switch that detects and over-center condition of the latch. =A0An= d one that verifies the baggage door is locked closed. =A0that said, I like= the audio alarm that has been proposed. =A0I know the "ANGLE ANGLE PUSH" g= ets my attention every time.=0AGary Casey=0A=0A=A0Mike's Gmail wrote:=0A=0A> I beg to differ about the door issue on the ES.=A0 = I got to look over an ES t=3D=0Ahat returned after the door opened in fligh= t.=A0 60% of the R/H H stab was mis=3D=0Asing the leading edge.=A0 The empe= nnage was cracked 2/3 around the tail and th=3D=0Ae roof of the cabin was b= adly damaged.=A0 =3D20=0A>=3D20=0A> Cargo doors on the 4p and ES's have had= their day too.. =3D20=0A>=3D20=0A> Mike Larkin ---955686164-350436460-1383775590=:84172 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yikes!  = I have only heard about one ES and one Columbia that had a door open and wh= at I heard was that there was "some damage" to the stabilizer.  Sounds= worse than that!  As best I know, the two aircraft that lost their do= or both had the "early" design with two pins that hold the door shut.  = ;The later ES's like mine have the IV-style over-center latches.  Ther= e has been an argument made that these can't come open in flight, as the ou= tward force on the door holds the hook engaged.  I don't know if that is true, but I've not heard of a IV door that opened in flight.  Rega= rdless, I have a switch that detects and over-center condition of the latch= .  And one that verifies the baggage door is locked closed.  that= said, I like the audio alarm that has been proposed.  I know the "ANG= LE ANGLE PUSH" gets my attention every time.
Gary Casey

 Mike's Gmail <legacyl2k@gmail.com> wrote:

> I beg to differ about the door issue= on the ES.  I got to look over an ES t=3D
hat returned after the door opened in flight.  60% of = the R/H H stab was mis=3D
sing t= he leading edge.  The empennage was cracked 2/3 around the tail and th= =3D
e roof of the cabin was badl= y damaged.  =3D20
>=3D20=
> Cargo doors on the 4p and ES's have had their day t= oo.. =3D20
>=3D20
> Mike Larkin

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