X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 16:04:34 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from mail-pd0-f176.google.com ([209.85.192.176] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6579250 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:50:27 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.176; envelope-from=2thman1@gmail.com Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id g10so10565893pdj.35 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:49:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.68.209.232 with SMTP id mp8mr4954924pbc.129.1383767389636; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:49:49 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.14] (71-212-96-147.tukw.qwest.net. [71.212.96.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y9sm482452pas.10.2013.11.06.11.49.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:49:48 -0800 (PST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Original-Message-Id: <4D79EE39-FFC1-45F1-BE58-E82819E07F20@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B511) From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Rain and Excess air entering ES cabin from door hinges X-Original-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 11:49:48 -0800 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List George, No I'm NOT talking about modifying the door or seal. Rather it's the door f= rame around the perimeter. Get inside and close the door. Using flashlight= examine the gap all the way around. Use a black marker pen or other device t= o mark and write on the door frame where it is too far away and how much. T= hen open the door and I used tongue depressors hot glued on the outside of t= he door seat to create a dam and a form for micro buildup. I sanded these t= ongue depressors to what I thought was the correct height. Then I mixed a f= airly thick batch of micro and applied it to the sanded and cleaned door fra= me. After set, I started sanding and shaping and trial fitting by gently cl= osing the door and finding where the seal would touch the layup. Eventually= I had the shape I wanted and then I laid up one BiD of carbon fiber over th= e top held down with peel ply. Job complete after lightly sanding the peel p= ly surface roughness. John Barrett Sent from my iPad > On Nov 6, 2013, at 7:30 AM, George Wehrung wrote: >=20 > I take it that when you modified the shape of the door you are talking the= outside or the inside where the seal attaches? >=20 > I will take pics, going to hangar to drop off some stuff >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Nov 6, 2013, at 7:25 AM, John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> wrote: >>=20 >> Take a look at the space around the door frame when closed and no door se= al pressure. Anywhere it is more than a quarter inch is too much and may no= t seal. I recently modified the shape of the door frame to get the space do= wn to about a sixteenth of an inch almost all the way around. That should f= ix your problem. >>=20 >> John >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:58 AM, George Wehrung wrote: >>>=20 >>> All, >>>=20 >>> I have noticed that with the door seal inflated that there is still subs= tantial down draft air flow on the back of my neck, (now that it is cold air= season) and the back seat area freezing out my dog. I thought the door sea= l would prevent that? Also taxiing in through the rain with the door seal i= nflated rain is leaking in. That sucks. =20 >>>=20 >>> Any suggestions? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> George >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.h= tml >>=20 >> -- >> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l