X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 12:26:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com ([209.85.192.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6577559 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 12:24:33 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.170; envelope-from=legacyl2k@gmail.com Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id v10so8826362pde.15 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 09:23:58 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.68.221.5 with SMTP id qa5mr24151924pbc.36.1383672237812; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 09:23:57 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [10.234.136.229] (mobile-166-137-182-248.mycingular.net. [166.137.182.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j9sm41732396paj.18.2013.11.05.09.23.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 09:23:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy Canopy Problem References: From: Mike's Gmail Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-0B8BBDCD-411C-4A61-B877-8939A78BC81F X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <2A683C2C-4892-4C50-ABBA-F3D97ADF291E@gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:23:54 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-0B8BBDCD-411C-4A61-B877-8939A78BC81F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul, First off, the canopy didn't open. It was not closed prior to takeoff. Had= a checklist been used (like a good pilot would do, of which I am not. I'm j= ust lucky and have learned from my stupid mistakes of the past and those mad= e by others.) the accident would not have happened. So for those of us who h= ave Darwin moments; 'die, get hurt, shit themselfs, or get lucky.' Flying i= s very unforgiving if you don't follow some form of procedure. At which poi= nt you experience Darwinism; survival of the fittest! =20 Mike Larkin Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Paul Miller wrote: > Do you mean that the people who have had a canopy open are somehow inferio= r and wlll be naturally removed because they aren't cut out to be pilots? I= s that the meaning of your message? Or is that a canopy that can be opened i= s a way of selecting better pilots in this world. Please explain your Darw= in comment to us. I really want to know how that works into the problem her= e. >=20 > Paul > Legacy >=20 > PS: for the dolts who can't figure it out, there's another mode of canopy o= pening that won't be solved with a checklist on the ground. Think outside t= he cabin should be the first rule on this subject. >=20 >=20 > On 2013-11-05, at 10:52 AM, Mike Larkin wrote: >=20 > Well said Kevin.... >=20 > Mike >=20 > Remember, not everyone was meant to fly.... Darwin >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Kevin Stallard wrote: > Pre-takeoff checklist >=20 > Trim, fuel selector, mixture, prop, push up (hard) on the canopy. (five p= lus one) >=20 > This isn't a big deal to me. I don't think drama surrounding the canopy i= s needed or deserved. >=20 > It has been shown that while tricky, the airplane is controllable if you h= appen to leave the canopy open. Just don't stop flying the airplane. Bette= r yet, don't leave it unlocked. >=20 > Kevin > N969RJ (flying !!) >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mike Larkin > LarkinAviationConsulting > LegacyL2K@gmail.com > 602-770-6054 >=20 --Apple-Mail-0B8BBDCD-411C-4A61-B877-8939A78BC81F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Paul,

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First off, the canopy didn't open.  It was not closed prior to tak= eoff.  Had a checklist been used (like a good pilot would do, of which I= am not.  I'm just lucky and have learned from my stupid mistakes of th= e past and those made by others.) the accident would not have happened. &nbs= p;So for those of us who have Darwin moments; 'die, get hurt, shit themselfs= , or get lucky.'  Flying is very unforgiving if you don't follow some f= orm of procedure.  At which point you experience Darwinism; survival of= the fittest!  

Mike Larkin

Sent from m= y iPhone

On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Paul Miller <pjdmiller@gmail.com> wrote:

Do you mean that the people who h= ave had a canopy open are somehow inferior and wlll be naturally removed bec= ause they aren't cut out to be pilots?  Is that the meaning of your mes= sage?  Or is that a canopy that can be opened is a way of selecting bet= ter pilots in this world.   Please explain your Darwin comment to us. &= nbsp;I really want to know how that works into the problem here.

Paul
Legacy

PS: for the dolts who= can't figure it out, there's another mode of canopy opening that won't be s= olved with a checklist on the ground.   Think outside the cabin should b= e the first rule on this subject.


On 20= 13-11-05, at 10:52 AM, Mike Larkin <legacyl2k@gmail.com> wrote:

Well said Kevin....

Mike
Remember, not everyone was meant to fly....  Darwin


On Tue, Nov 5, 2= 013 at 8:29 AM, Kevin Stallard <kevin@arilabs.net> wrote:
Pre-takeoff checklist

Trim, fuel selector, mixture, prop, push up (hard) on the canopy.  (fiv= e plus one)

This isn't a big deal to me.   I don't think drama surrounding the cano= py is needed or deserved.

It has been shown that while tricky, the airplane is controllable if you hap= pen to leave the canopy open.  Just don't stop flying the airplane. &nb= sp;Better yet, don't leave it unlocked.

Kevin
N969RJ (flying !!)



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