X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 09:58:19 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTP id 6458733 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 19:40:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.173.17; envelope-from=skipslater@verizon.net Received: from SkipPC ([unknown] [74.111.221.50]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MSS009AN4EOIE50@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 18:40:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-Message-id: <9F3EF30ACA9B4C14A80A32F18F2764E6@SkipPC> From: "Skip Slater" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: iPad overheated & quit! X-Original-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 16:39:56 -0700 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Hamid et.al., Since I'm using the iPad at American, I can tell you how we use them and the environment they operate in. I would echo Hamid's observation that it's a completely different application and environment than in a Lancair. First, since we don't use them for navigation or attitude (and why would we with the cockpit instrumentation we have?), the iPads are normally only used for reference to an airport diagram or departure procedure on the ground and in the initial phases of flight. Once we get past the STAR, we normally turn them off until we're getting set up for a SID and instrument approach prior to arrival as well as displaying the arrival airport diagram during taxi in. Sometimes we'll turn the units on in flight to reference something in a manual, but for most of a normal flight, the screen is turned off. Also, as Hamid mentioned, we operate our iPads in an air conditioned, pressurized environment. They aren't under a plexiglas canopy where they'd subject to continuous sun exposure. I'm not aware of anyone to date who has reported one overheating. I'm guessing that would have been a major road block to FAA approval of their use in airliners. So far as I know AA bought standard, un-modified 3G models of the third generation iPad. They use stock software with all of our Jepps displayed on a proprietary app from Jeppesen. In the 737 I fly, the iPads are mounted using either a RAM suction cup mount to our side windows or a tray type mound that attaches to the side window clipboard. Because they're facing into the cockpit with the backs of the units shielded from the sun by the mounts, they get no direct sun exposure at all. Hope this clarifies some of the questions, Skip Slater