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J

DO YOU HAVE THE ALTITUDE CONTROLLER SET FOR SEA LEVEL?

YOOSE GOTS LEAKS

have you check the validity of the cabin interior pressure gage?
i am not expert in how to trouble shoot the system, but here would be my approach.
start:
1. check turbo connections to cabin
2. integrity of valve under the rear seat
3. accuracy of controller and indicators on dash
4. door seal/system (my plane needed re contouring of door jamb)
5. seal at rear of cabin behind the seat (this came loose on my plane and had never been correctly attached)
6. door strut can cause a problem with hinges and the lifting of door by the roof (rearrange strut- not yet done in mine)
7. at 14,000 feet, how many inches of manifold could you show (engine/turbo issue)

that really is a genaric list of how to proceed; but it gives you a sense of how to break down the problem into solvable problems

the work was done by Matthew at Fibercraft in Spruce Creek, FLA

hope the advise is a help

p

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:31:40 -0400
From: jbarrett@carbinge.com
Subject: [LML] Re: more on IVP pressurization

Peter,

Have been to 14K so far. I get about 11K cabin pressure.

John

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of PETER WILLIAMS
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 4:54 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] more on IVP pressurization

john

have you flown the airplane at altitude?

after a bunch of work on sealing my 4P i have a 3,800' cabin at 17,500
with 32" and 2300rpm
i have the altitude set at 1,000 feet; where it should be if i am returning to sea level

peter

> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 07:42:10 -0400
> From: 2thman1@gmail.com
> Subject: [LML] IVP pressurization
>
> Having trouble getting my pressurization to work effectively.
> I did my best to seal the pressure vessel but never got above .25 PSID with my 6 horse shop vac. Used both pressure and vacuum to check for leaks. No smoke but used a down feather and then a stethoscope with tympanic membrane removed. Outflow valve is covered during these tests.
>
> After lots of frustration i hired a guy who has built and/or pressurized about a dozen IVPs to come take a look. He determined using smoke that there were a couple of slight improvements to be made mostly in the wire bundles through the aft pressure bulkhead and after doing this he declared the vessel seal very good.
>
> So we deduced that maybe the shop vac is not as efficient at blowing air as I thought, but my flying experience with the aircraft is that it doesn't do much better than the .25 PSID in flight up to 14.5K ft.
>
> Wondering why there is inadequate pressurization with a good pressure vessel leads to thoughts of outflow valve problems. I bought the device with the kit in 1996 so it occurs to me the valve could be dirty or rubber diaphragm could be failing, etc. I removed the outflow valve yesterday and tried to examine the parts. i lubricated the mandrel that the poppet valve slides on with a very small spritz of LPS1 lubricant in case there was stiction there. I did notice that with the poppet valve manually moved to the furthest closed position the diaphragm still had somewhere around a 1/32" gap at the seating perimeters. Should the air pressure in flight fill that diaphragm to close the gap or does this indicate the valve needs servicing?
>
> Finally is there a way short of the manual dump switch to keep the system from pressurizing better than what I see by mismanaging the controller? Am I just setting the pressurization up wrong? Have only been up to 3,000 ft elevation airports, (KRDM) and lower - most at sea level.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> John Barrett
>
> Sent from my iPad
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