X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 15:50:33 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTPS id 6458532 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 15:04:27 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.223.180; envelope-from=toddlong1@gmail.com Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 10so6327180ied.25 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 12:03:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.114.72 with SMTP id je8mr2819232igb.31.1378580631438; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 12:03:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.177] ([199.108.71.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w4sm5150709igb.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Sep 2013 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: iPad overheated & quit! References: From: Todd Long Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3A99B4B4-F352-41E0-80EB-04A1D0F91E7E X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <0A12CEFD-728F-423F-833E-304145B374CD@gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:03:46 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-3A99B4B4-F352-41E0-80EB-04A1D0F91E7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Airlines are only allowed to use it for chart purposes. They are forbidden f= rom turning on the ownship feature. So it's not even allowed for helping wi= th situational awareness. Also are required to have 2 on board. And in some c= ases are also required to have a spare charging battery available in the coc= kpit.=20 Typing and grammar errors courtesy of Siri and the iPhone. On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:07, Paul Miller wrote: > you usually grace us with interesting stats and data we can chew on. unfo= rtunately, this post adds little meat to either argument and zero backup to= the "spend more equals better reliability and function" nonsense we get fr= om the certified box makers. =20 >=20 > If its good enough for American Airlines then I'm probably ok too. Why d= on't you send your estimate of reliability to AA for a comment? Unless you k= now more than the airline does... >=20 > Paul > On 2013-09-07, at 7:56 AM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: >=20 >> Panel Avionics - produced only in the thousands, incredible costs associ= ated with R&D and certification, built to operate in a hostile environment, e= rror rate =3D errors / (flight hours X thousands) >> =20 >> Consumer electronics - produced in the millions with reasonable R&D costs= and much simpler certification, built to be operated by children and old pe= ople, error rate =3D errors / (tons of operating hours X millions) >> =20 >> Yep, looks comparable to me. >> =20 >> Grayhawk >> =20 >> PS getting two may not be enough........... >=20 --Apple-Mail-3A99B4B4-F352-41E0-80EB-04A1D0F91E7E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Airlines are only allowed to use it fo= r chart purposes. They are forbidden from turning on the ownship feature. &n= bsp;So it's not even allowed for helping with situational awareness. Also ar= e required to have 2 on board. And in some cases are also required to have a= spare charging battery available in the cockpit. 

Typing and gr= ammar errors courtesy of Siri and the iPhone.

On Sep 7, 2013, a= t 12:07, Paul Miller <pjdmiller@gm= ail.com> wrote:

you usuall= y grace us with interesting stats and data we can chew on.  unfortunate= ly,  this post adds little meat to either argument and zero backup to t= he  "spend more equals better reliability and function" nonsense we get= from the certified box makers.   

If its good e= nough for American Airlines then I'm probably ok too.   Why don't you s= end your estimate of reliability to AA for a comment?  Unless you know m= ore than the airline does...

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