X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTP id 6456976 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 10:48:04 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.70; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=QWNk24x37kq7jXI51Jv008OKGOKBRgqsOce9bMxkmNASWg5Uh39rutqrJK3vvPAw; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [74.226.127.4] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VHxJn-0008VI-Sh for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 10:47:30 -0400 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-184-739658053 Subject: Re: [LML] more iPad overheated & quit! Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:46:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Message-Id: <13E97202-6132-4CB6-BA60-BD1DEED013E5@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9404fb5b485ee253fdc050a8b07412b74fe350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 74.226.127.4 --Apple-Mail-184-739658053 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii foreflight also runs on the iphone. Since I have an iphone I use that = as my backup. (and keep my ipad out of the sun). ....but long as we're on the subject, there's a reason it costs some = bucks to get your panel-mount avionics certified. find Brent Regan's = post about testing the Chelton system on the LML and then imagine doing = that to your ipad. On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:54 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote: hi there A GREAT IDEA we think nothing of dual navcoms... why not dual ipads!! and much = cheaper.=20 i have multiple ways to keep the ipad charged, including a = plug-in that uses AA batteries BUT why not just a second ipad. you can load your software on multiple = ipads an no additional cost YES =20 peter To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:10:53 -0400 From: pjdmiller@gmail.com Subject: [LML] Re: iPad overheated & quit! I'd rather have two ipads with moving maps than a panel mount tso'd = certified expensive small screen that can fail. They do fail, they need = expensive repairs, they need cooling and certification does not prohibit = a unit from failing so what are you trying to sell us with that comment? = At least the iPad tells you it needs to get cooled. How many = certification hours and dollars would it take to make that change to a = Garmin unit or Chelton unit today?=20 The iPad is indeed a flightworthy item and now standard issue (in = duplicate) on a number of airlines. Apple's iPad now in use in all American Airlines cockpits Paul (cracked screen ipad still working marvellously with GPS, 3G appr = charts, low/hi IFR charts, VFR charts and all the for about $300) On 2013-09-05, at 9:07 AM, Kevin Stallard wrote: Yeah...and some folks wonder why it is so expensive and takes so long to = create flight worthy electronics.... --Apple-Mail-184-739658053 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii foreflight also runs on the iphone.   Since I = have an iphone I use that as my backup. (and keep my ipad out of the = sun).

....but long as we're on the subject, there's a = reason it costs some bucks to get your panel-mount avionics certified. =   find Brent Regan's post about testing the Chelton system on the = LML and then imagine doing that to your ipad.

On = Sep 6, 2013, at 7:54 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote:

hi there

A GREAT IDEA
    = we think nothing of dual navcoms... why not dual ipads!! and much = cheaper. 
         i = have multiple ways to keep the ipad charged, including a plug-in that = uses AA batteries

BUT
  why not just = a second ipad. you can load your software on multiple ipads an no = additional cost

   = YES
   
peter


To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Date: = Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:10:53 -0400
From: pjdmiller@gmail.com
Subject: = [LML] Re: iPad overheated & quit!

I'd rather have two ipads = with moving maps than a panel mount tso'd certified expensive small = screen that can fail.  They do fail, they need expensive repairs, = they need cooling and certification does not prohibit a unit from = failing so what are you trying to sell us with that comment?  At = least the iPad tells you it needs to get cooled.  How many = certification hours and dollars would it take to make that change to a = Garmin unit or Chelton unit today? 

The iPad is = indeed a flightworthy item and now standard issue (in duplicate) on a = number of airlines.


Paul
(= cracked screen ipad still working marvellously with GPS, 3G appr charts, = low/hi IFR charts, VFR charts and all the for about = $300)

On 2013-09-05, at 9:07 AM, Kevin Stallard = <kevin@arilabs.net> = wrote:

Yeah...and some folks = wonder why it is so expensive and takes so long to create flight worthy = electronics....

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