X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:30:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com ([17.158.58.247] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6392528 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:19:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.158.58.247; envelope-from=gw5@me.com Received: from [10.0.1.54] (cpe-066-056-207-053.ec.res.rr.com [66.56.207.53]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MQK00MC65MNKJ60@nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 19:18:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-26_08:2013-07-26,2013-07-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307260149 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Second Pilot During Phase I Flight Testing References: From: George Wehrung Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-DEA58BCD-A03D-4CE2-A266-44D221BE4617 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B350) In-reply-to: X-Original-Message-id: X-Original-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:18:24 -0400 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-DEA58BCD-A03D-4CE2-A266-44D221BE4617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jeff Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:33, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote: > George, > =20 > You get it... > =20 > Overseas contingency operations? Man-made disaster area? Drone intensive o= p area? Be safe!=20 > =20 > Don't worry... the administration has your back... well maybe they will ju= st throw you under the bus....be sure to sign those non disclosure agreement= s before you leave. > =20 > ;) > =20 > Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: George Wehrung > To: lml > Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2013 8:58 am > Subject: [LML] Re: Second Pilot During Phase I Flight Testing >=20 > Bob, >=20 > I am heading overseas again so no Osh Kosh this year; maybe, next year. M= y initial thoughts are that the qualified pilot be one that has experience i= n experimental aircraft; preferably similar make and model. The question is h= ow do you define qualified? It would be nice for most to be able to utilize= a pilot from their local flying community. I would think the goal is to el= iminate the use of a young and newly minted CFI or the person who has not fl= own consistently over the last few years. Some qualifiers to consider but n= ot necessarily hard and fast requirements are below: >=20 > Test Pilot Experience >=20 > Experimental Build Experience >=20 > Experimental Flight Experience >=20 > Flight Instructor Experience >=20 > Overall Flight Experience >=20 > My .02 > George >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Robert R Pastusek wrote= : >=20 >> Lancair Builders--especially those not yet flying, >> =20 >> I=E2=80=99d like to advise you of a forum/discussion to be presented on M= onday at 1600 at AirVenture by the FAA=E2=80=99s Mark Giron. Mark has been w= orking on an initiative to allow a second qualified pilot to participate in P= hase I testing of new Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) aircraft, and needs i= nput from the flying community. Mark developed an initial proposal that was r= eviewed by the Lancair Owners and Builders Organization (LOBO), and others w= ithin the community earlier this year, and will present the current status o= f his initiative for review and comment on Monday afternoon. >>=20 >> Please come join us and share your thoughts with those of us who have wor= ked for a very long time for this! >>=20 >> Bob >=20 --Apple-Mail-DEA58BCD-A03D-4CE2-A266-44D221BE4617 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Jeff

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On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:33, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote:

=
George,
 
You get it...
 
Overseas contingency operations?  Man-made disaster area? Drone in= tensive op area?    Be safe! 
 
Don't worry... the administration has your back... well maybe they will= just throw you under the bus....be sure to sign those non disclosure agreem= ents before you leave.
 
;)
 
Jeff
= -----Original Message-----
From: George Wehrung <gw5@me.com> To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2013 8:58 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Second Pilot During Phase I Flight Testing

Bob,

I am heading overseas again so no Osh Kosh this year; maybe, next year.=  My initial thoughts are that the qualified pilot be one that has expe= rience in experimental aircraft; preferably similar make and model. The ques= tion is how do you define qualified?  It would be nice for most to be a= ble to utilize a pilot from their local flying community.  I would thin= k the goal is to eliminate the use of a young and newly minted CFI or the pe= rson who has not flown consistently over the last few years.  Some qual= ifiers to consider but not necessarily hard and fast requirements are below:=

Test Pilot Experience

Experimental Build Experience

Experimental Flight Experience

Flight Instructor Experience

Overall Flight Experience

My .02
George





Lancair Builders--especially those= not yet flying,
 
I=E2=80=99d like to advise you of a= forum/discussion to be presented on Monday at 1600 at AirVenture by the FAA=E2=80=99s Mark Giron. Mark has been working on an initiative to allow a second qualified pilo= t to participate in Phase I testing of new Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB)= aircraft, and needs input from the flying community. Mark developed an init= ial proposal that was reviewed by the Lancair Owners and Builders Organizati= on (LOBO), and others within the community earlier this year, and will prese= nt the current status of his initiative for review and comment on Monday aft= ernoon.

Please come join us and share your thoughts with those of us who have worked= for a very long time for this!

Bob

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