X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com ([213.199.154.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6392349 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:23:25 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=213.199.154.207; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from mail94-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.252) by AM1EHSOBE026.bigfish.com (10.3.207.148) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:22:47 +0000 Received: from mail94-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail94-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EFD120178 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:22:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.245.5;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:CH1PRD0710HT001.namprd07.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -3 X-BigFish: PS-3(zz98dI9371I542Izz1f42h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6hzz8275ch1de098h17326ah1de097h1de096h8275bhz2fh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh15d0h162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h19ceh1ad9h1b0ah1d07h1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1de9h1dfeh1dffh1e1dh1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail94-am1: domain of htii.com designates 157.56.245.5 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.245.5; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com; helo=CH1PRD0710HT001.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail94-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail94-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1374859364708161_12201; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS005.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.252]) by mail94-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F69B460046 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1PRD0710HT001.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (157.56.245.5) by AM1EHSMHS005.bigfish.com (10.3.207.105) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:22:43 +0000 Received: from CH1PRD0710MB367.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.11.78]) by CH1PRD0710HT001.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.152.36]) with mapi id 14.16.0341.000; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:22:41 +0000 From: Robert R Pastusek To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration Thread-Index: AQHOih/c3QpmrJxCpE2Nuzuu34pS1Jl3Lacg Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 17:22:40 +0000 Message-ID: <41361035E6613244A377D5AC3BF5EFDD61407052@CH1PRD0710MB367.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [70.192.195.31] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: rpastusek@htii.com X-OriginatorOrg: htii.com X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% The other related variable on prop blades is "runout" or "blade tracking." = Although it's as severe as with different pitch angles, ;but significant va= riation between blade tracking can also be a cause of vibration. Always wor= th checking as part of these checks. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Crai= g Schulze Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:48 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration It sounds to me that you may have an issue with your prop hub not changing = the pitch exactly the same on all the blades. The vibration you are feeli= ng is one blade taking a larger bite of air and then causing everything to = wobble. It settles in sometimes but when you change the power setting the = pitch on the prop is adjusted by the hub unevenly. =20 Blue Skies, Craig Schulze Lancair N73S On Jul 25, 2013, at 1:22 PM, "Steve Colwell" wrote: In the first 40 hours I had vibration so severe it caused stick shake. Thi= s has continued intermittently more or less for almost 400 hours. First I found and fixed several Cowl Interference locations, then adjusted = and notched the hat section of the nose gear door. At about 50 hours I paid Barrett to tear down the engine to replace the Per= formance pistons (prematurely worn top rings) with stock ECI pistons. Also found a cracked case. We had the Kelly Alternator balanced and rebuilt at a shop recommended by B= ill Bainbridge of B & C. Sorry I can't remember the name, the Legacy file = is in Texas.=20 I rounded the leading edges of the elevator counter weights when building s= o I temporarily squared them off to go back to the stock shape for testing. All gear doors were checked in flight with video camera.=20 The pitch trim hinge pin had play, I replaced it per Chris Zavatson's web p= age. Along the way the prop was balanced twice. I could not get more that the usual vibration (which always seemed to be to= o much) on test flights. Then, unpredictably, vibration magnitude would incr= ease with power reduction on some later flight. I say unpredictably becaus= e I could not get increased vibration by attempting to duplicate previous c= onditions. Let's hope a solution surfaces at Airventure. Steve Colwell Legacy RG IO550-N with Hartzell 3 Blade -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Paul= Miller Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:22 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration Ed Martin's legacy is smooth. Mine has had a lot of annoying vibes as you = describe but virtually all have been removed with lots of cowling interfere= nce fixes and plug change. Many pilots forget the alternator can be a wick= ed source of vibration and it is almost in the same plane as the prop. The problems I had originally were in that freq range and visible at the wi= ngtip also. 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