X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:47:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pd0-f176.google.com ([209.85.192.176] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6392017 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:43:06 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.176; envelope-from=craig@skybolt.net Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 14so1680372pdc.7 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 07:42:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=20Skjkr9LZWQKwvCDyhstAb3sEEApNj7cRH49gj8yKY=; b=FH+JHuJbU/Fav0+R7XEx5PsPmUgDsritvVzh0f/z6rPMoP1F0FEoTcWdzUX85J86Ui LgFbel7ssYVcKZYSmPkVBnW4KcZd315e5AT6z3pxrh73UrFvULzCl1NKDUc3+FsGSS3J +HINiFJ1TzJ0ik0Wvc+RZO8TxUmzJ88KAfQty2Aee9DqMNh8E7pEDanhvd6/DJqVGKsd +8BWMM+a0buJzIBvYBjurEUe3O0Az6A0b7CRe7ZRQBmDw+Gzzq+GX130NYX2eaZpYHV1 8gPcg/ZEoRoxgV5qZm0JWmQa6UIEN6V/IqX/6+Y2ZrARa8fLDjeKFchpdS6M4dNzfGL5 PYcA== X-Received: by 10.66.2.7 with SMTP id 7mr15442677paq.181.1374849739671; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 07:42:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [10.0.1.13] (24-205-5-120.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com. [24.205.5.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pv5sm4039634pac.14.2013.07.26.07.42.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Jul 2013 07:42:18 -0700 (PDT) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <071F87AF-E272-41BA-9656-FFB54D86FDF9@skybolt.net> X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Craig Schulze Subject: Re: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration X-Original-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 07:42:17 -0700 X-Original-To: Steve Colwell X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnWOjiZSQEdKfr25dNu3fWv08gbqbweVAPvmmy8GyDe+ESz/UqNd8wbkZMBgVs2YYmpKfMe It sounds to me that you may have an issue with your prop hub not changing t= he pitch exactly the same on all the blades. The vibration you are feeling= is one blade taking a larger bite of air and then causing everything to wob= ble. It settles in sometimes but when you change the power setting the pitc= h on the prop is adjusted by the hub unevenly. =20 Blue Skies, Craig Schulze Lancair N73S On Jul 25, 2013, at 1:22 PM, "Steve Colwell" wrote: In the first 40 hours I had vibration so severe it caused stick shake. This= has continued intermittently more or less for almost 400 hours. First I found and fixed several Cowl Interference locations, then adjusted and notched the hat section of the nose gear door. At about 50 hours I paid Barrett to tear down the engine to replace the Performance pistons (prematurely worn top rings) with stock ECI pistons. Also found a cracked case. We had the Kelly Alternator balanced and rebuilt at a shop recommended by Bill Bainbridge of B & C. Sorry I can't remember the name, the Legacy file is in Texas.=20 I rounded the leading edges of the elevator counter weights when building so= I temporarily squared them off to go back to the stock shape for testing. All gear doors were checked in flight with video camera.=20 The pitch trim hinge pin had play, I replaced it per Chris Zavatson's web page. Along the way the prop was balanced twice. I could not get more that the usual vibration (which always seemed to be too= much) on test flights. Then, unpredictably, vibration magnitude would increase with power reduction on some later flight. I say unpredictably because I could not get increased vibration by attempting to duplicate previous conditions. Let's hope a solution surfaces at Airventure. Steve Colwell Legacy RG IO550-N with Hartzell 3 Blade -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Paul Miller Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:22 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration Ed Martin's legacy is smooth. Mine has had a lot of annoying vibes as you describe but virtually all have been removed with lots of cowling interference fixes and plug change. Many pilots forget the alternator can be a wicked source of vibration and it is almost in the same plane as the prop. The problems I had originally were in that freq range and visible at the wingtip also. Paul