X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:22:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm42-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.87.153] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6391032 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:18:50 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.87.153; envelope-from=mcmess1919@yahoo.com Received: from [98.137.12.55] by nm42.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 19:18:14 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.211] by tm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 19:18:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp222.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2013 19:18:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 615366.60384.bm@smtp222.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: ZcId6LsVM1laOflZQn9nJcOAOBqb9tPDo6BtmL0zCSYOIh8 WsgoXw9BQmzDmPeWy1DJJjcr4nEjoTNTR0gxVBZGwT6Vf93DJW3F9kFFkgxI EHX.Pg.J8jI_YuuqPihbqufUTMN3u585r04vxUEzG5.ATrmpBLVdjS_kTKHx dpiE0ubwKEvRg2o1SoO9FWGsVaR99jpMFW4fsafTBixOfIxn0LhXDyXRcQZf 2vkxLrx9_HqunjO.oz8PPfAn2IqZR_mOyyRCnP9wf01Qc4htC7BqxsgtJ2Q0 mJfOyvHkvkCr3rNztOMMdwjR3IOmptVof7Wr1pfqhk0szJA_bjieWAnYvhzt NknVWTNfGVAV0WE0URAFRbTWZD3t4sRJghCgB4H8_tWmnb1L0a36IymmMn17 N0CkoIfExfYaluqGyqlSj.rljsBuF3KBBm1QzDC2wSqPilMuomLrZ3RMRzZO uT37ZiGN.JIppWP1XFW2skWMMP1fuzzZ58Yl.zWphNK5TdDO6gbG4h.ITqPU CzFRnD0tHX3wW._gEGfP6zpobi6rXqDjnXlqB1fhXz5fc X-Yahoo-SMTP: rK4i7HqswBC7mDE8.sOiWQeO4CeReXc- X-Rocket-Received: from StevePC (mcmess1919@67.187.169.184 with ) by smtp222.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2013 19:18:14 +0000 UTC From: "Steve Colwell" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" X-Original-Cc: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:18:13 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <03fc01ce896b$b5fa0350$21ee09f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac6JQlbzDphs6KxNQCGC4cyJTEJj1gAGP+4w Content-Language: en-us In the first 40 hours I had vibration so severe it caused stick shake. This has continued intermittently more or less for almost 400 hours. First I found and fixed several Cowl Interference locations, then adjusted and notched the hat section of the nose gear door. At about 50 hours I paid Barrett to tear down the engine to replace the Performance pistons (prematurely worn top rings) with stock ECI pistons. Also found a cracked case. We had the Kelly Alternator balanced and rebuilt at a shop recommended by Bill Bainbridge of B & C. Sorry I can't remember the name, the Legacy file is in Texas. I rounded the leading edges of the elevator counter weights when building so I temporarily squared them off to go back to the stock shape for testing. All gear doors were checked in flight with video camera. The pitch trim hinge pin had play, I replaced it per Chris Zavatson's web page. Along the way the prop was balanced twice. I could not get more that the usual vibration (which always seemed to be too much) on test flights. Then, unpredictably, vibration magnitude would increase with power reduction on some later flight. I say unpredictably because I could not get increased vibration by attempting to duplicate previous conditions. Let's hope a solution surfaces at Airventure. Steve Colwell Legacy RG IO550-N with Hartzell 3 Blade -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Paul Miller Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:22 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration Ed Martin's legacy is smooth. Mine has had a lot of annoying vibes as you describe but virtually all have been removed with lots of cowling interference fixes and plug change. Many pilots forget the alternator can be a wicked source of vibration and it is almost in the same plane as the prop. The problems I had originally were in that freq range and visible at the wingtip also. Paul