X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:38:45 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6386291 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:52:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.56; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-98-85-141-180.mco.bellsouth.net[98.85.141.180]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20130724215156H06004u5ufe>; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:51:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.85.141.180] From: "Bill Bradburry" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Second Pilot During Phase I Flight Testing X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:51:58 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01CE8896.7E9D40F0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac6Ir/YbWqirS9StTQOe4er2RlvUFQAB2Rwg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CE8896.7E9D40F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An SR22 is similar to a Legacy FG and probably also to the ES. I don't know about a retractable like the L-IV. My insurance accepted 10 hours in the SR22 for my Legacy FG. B2 _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn Case Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:54 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: Second Pilot During Phase I Flight Testing I like your list. but what is a similar make and model? Is an SR22 G5 a similar make and model if the target airplane is a L-IV? It flies high, goes pretty fast, has glass, and totally different stall characteristics. ...just as one example. On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:58 AM, George Wehrung wrote: Bob, I am heading overseas again so no Osh Kosh this year; maybe, next year. My initial thoughts are that the qualified pilot be one that has experience in experimental aircraft; preferably similar make and model. The question is how do you define qualified? It would be nice for most to be able to utilize a pilot from their local flying community. I would think the goal is to eliminate the use of a young and newly minted CFI or the person who has not flown consistently over the last few years. Some qualifiers to consider but not necessarily hard and fast requirements are below: Test Pilot Experience Experimental Build Experience Experimental Flight Experience Flight Instructor Experience Overall Flight Experience My .02 George On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Robert R Pastusek wrote: Lancair Builders--especially those not yet flying, I'd like to advise you of a forum/discussion to be presented on Monday at 1600 at AirVenture by the FAA's Mark Giron. Mark has been working on an initiative to allow a second qualified pilot to participate in Phase I testing of new Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) aircraft, and needs input from the flying community. Mark developed an initial proposal that was reviewed by the Lancair Owners and Builders Organization (LOBO), and others within the community earlier this year, and will present the current status of his initiative for review and comment on Monday afternoon. Please come join us and share your thoughts with those of us who have worked for a very long time for this! Bob ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CE8896.7E9D40F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

An SR22 is similar to a Legacy FG = and probably also to the ES.  I don’t know about a retractable = like the L-IV.  My insurance accepted 10 hours in the SR22 for my Legacy = FG.

 

B2

 

From: = Lancair Mailing List = [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn Case
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, = 2013 4:54 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Second = Pilot During Phase I Flight Testing

 

I like your list.   but what is a similar make and = model?

Is an SR22 G5 a similar make and model if the target airplane is = a L-IV?

It flies high, goes pretty fast, has glass, and totally = different stall characteristics.

 

...just as one example.

 

On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:58 AM, George Wehrung = wrote:

 

Bob,

 

I am heading overseas again so no Osh Kosh this year; maybe, = next year.  My initial thoughts are that the qualified pilot be one that has experience in experimental aircraft; preferably similar make and model. = The question is how do you define qualified?  It would be nice for most = to be able to utilize a pilot from their local flying community.  I would = think the goal is to eliminate the use of a young and newly minted CFI or the = person who has not flown consistently over the last few years.  Some = qualifiers to consider but not necessarily hard and fast requirements are = below:

 

Test Pilot Experience

 

Experimental Build Experience

 

Experimental Flight Experience

 

Flight Instructor Experience

 

Overall Flight Experience

 

My .02

George

 

 

 

 

On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Robert R Pastusek <rpastusek@htii.com> = wrote:



Lancair Builders--especially those not yet = flying,

 

I’d = like to advise you of a forum/discussion to be presented on Monday at 1600 = at AirVenture by the FAA’s Mark Giron. Mark has been working on an initiative to allow a second qualified pilot to participate in Phase I testing of new Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) aircraft, and needs input from the flying community. Mark developed an = initial proposal that was reviewed by the Lancair Owners and Builders = Organization (LOBO), and others within the community earlier this year, and will = present the current status of his initiative for review and comment on Monday = afternoon.


Please come join us and share your thoughts with those of us who have = worked for a very long time for this!


Bob

 

 

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