X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6386244 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:54:11 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.65; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VTEbZrYgtb2gf9h7aex38b8Ma9XV+PdDJHnVVZw3u6+vmoMN4D53kVbrF0JJtgAt; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [72.92.134.55] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1V2640-00007k-Fs for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:53:36 -0400 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-50--892459845 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Second Pilot During Phase I Flight Testing Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:53:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da94047242459649e4494facea4d3040748ec350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 72.92.134.55 --Apple-Mail-50--892459845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I like your list. but what is a similar make and model? Is an SR22 G5 a similar make and model if the target airplane is a L-IV? It flies high, goes pretty fast, has glass, and totally different stall = characteristics. ...just as one example. On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:58 AM, George Wehrung wrote: Bob, I am heading overseas again so no Osh Kosh this year; maybe, next year. = My initial thoughts are that the qualified pilot be one that has = experience in experimental aircraft; preferably similar make and model. = The question is how do you define qualified? It would be nice for most = to be able to utilize a pilot from their local flying community. I = would think the goal is to eliminate the use of a young and newly minted = CFI or the person who has not flown consistently over the last few = years. Some qualifiers to consider but not necessarily hard and fast = requirements are below: Test Pilot Experience Experimental Build Experience Experimental Flight Experience Flight Instructor Experience Overall Flight Experience My .02 George On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Robert R Pastusek = wrote: > Lancair Builders--especially those not yet flying, > =20 > I=92d like to advise you of a forum/discussion to be presented on = Monday at 1600 at AirVenture by the FAA=92s Mark Giron. Mark has been = working on an initiative to allow a second qualified pilot to = participate in Phase I testing of new Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) = aircraft, and needs input from the flying community. Mark developed an = initial proposal that was reviewed by the Lancair Owners and Builders = Organization (LOBO), and others within the community earlier this year, = and will present the current status of his initiative for review and = comment on Monday afternoon. >=20 > Please come join us and share your thoughts with those of us who have = worked for a very long time for this! >=20 > Bob --Apple-Mail-50--892459845 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I = like your list. but what is a similar make and model?

Is an = SR22 G5 a similar make and model if the target airplane is a = L-IV?

It flies high, goes pretty fast, has glass, and totally = different stall characteristics.

...just as one = example.

On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:58 AM, George = Wehrung wrote:

Bob,

I am = heading overseas again so no Osh Kosh this year; maybe, next year. = My initial thoughts are that the qualified pilot be one that has = experience in experimental aircraft; preferably similar make and model. = The question is how do you define qualified? It would be nice for = most to be able to utilize a pilot from their local flying community. = I would think the goal is to eliminate the use of a young and = newly minted CFI or the person who has not flown consistently over the = last few years. Some qualifiers to consider but not necessarily = hard and fast requirements are below:

Test = Pilot Experience

Experimental Build = Experience

Experimental Flight = Experience

Flight Instructor = Experience

Overall Flight = Experience

My = .02

George

On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Robert R Pastusek <rpastusek@htii.com> = wrote:

Lancair = Builders--especially those not yet flying,

I=92d like to advise you = of a forum/discussion to be presented on Monday at 1600 at AirVenture by the FAA=92s Mark Giron. Mark has been working on an initiative to = allow a second qualified pilot to participate in Phase I testing of new = Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) aircraft, and needs input from the = flying community. Mark developed an initial proposal that was reviewed = by the Lancair Owners and Builders Organization (LOBO), and others = within the community earlier this year, and will present the current = status of his initiative for review and comment on Monday = afternoon.

Please come join us and share your = thoughts with those of us who have worked for a very long time for = this!