X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:58:07 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.58.246] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6385335 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:30:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.158.58.246; envelope-from=gw5@me.com Received: from [10.0.1.7] ([66.56.207.53]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MQF00FOZXCZ4B10@nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:29:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-24_01:2013-07-22,2013-07-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307240062 From: George Wehrung Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_523B9FD5-083C-4B8F-8D33-C395DA97392F" X-Original-Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Second Pilot During Phase I Flight Testing X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:29:27 -0400 References: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) --Apple-Mail=_523B9FD5-083C-4B8F-8D33-C395DA97392F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Bob, I am heading overseas again so no Osh Kosh this year; maybe, next year. = My initial thoughts are that the qualified pilot be one that has = experience in experimental aircraft; preferably similar make and model. = The question is how do you define qualified? It would be nice for most = to be able to utilize a pilot from their local flying community. I = would think the goal is to eliminate the use of a young and newly minted = CFI or the person who has not flown consistently over the last few = years. Some qualifiers to consider but not necessarily hard and fast = requirements are below: Test Pilot Experience Experimental Build Experience Experimental Flight Experience Flight Instructor Experience Overall Flight Experience My .02 George On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Robert R Pastusek = wrote: > Lancair Builders--especially those not yet flying, > =20 > I=92d like to advise you of a forum/discussion to be presented on = Monday at 1600 at AirVenture by the FAA=92s Mark Giron. Mark has been = working on an initiative to allow a second qualified pilot to = participate in Phase I testing of new Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) = aircraft, and needs input from the flying community. Mark developed an = initial proposal that was reviewed by the Lancair Owners and Builders = Organization (LOBO), and others within the community earlier this year, = and will present the current status of his initiative for review and = comment on Monday afternoon. >=20 > Please come join us and share your thoughts with those of us who have = worked for a very long time for this! >=20 > Bob --Apple-Mail=_523B9FD5-083C-4B8F-8D33-C395DA97392F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Bob,

I am = heading overseas again so no Osh Kosh this year; maybe, next year. =  My initial thoughts are that the qualified pilot be one that has = experience in experimental aircraft; preferably similar make and model. = The question is how do you define qualified?  It would be nice for = most to be able to utilize a pilot from their local flying community. =  I would think the goal is to eliminate the use of a young and = newly minted CFI or the person who has not flown consistently over the = last few years.  Some qualifiers to consider but not necessarily = hard and fast requirements are below:

Test = Pilot Experience

Experimental Build = Experience

Experimental Flight = Experience

Flight Instructor = Experience

Overall Flight = Experience

My = .02
George




On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Robert R Pastusek <rpastusek@htii.com> = wrote:

Lancair = Builders--especially those not yet flying,
 
I=92d like to advise you = of a forum/discussion to be presented on Monday at 1600 at AirVenture by the FAA=92s Mark Giron. Mark has been working on an initiative to = allow a second qualified pilot to participate in Phase I testing of new = Experimental-Amateur Built (E-AB) aircraft, and needs input from the = flying community. Mark developed an initial proposal that was reviewed = by the Lancair Owners and Builders Organization (LOBO), and others = within the community earlier this year, and will present the current = status of his initiative for review and comment on Monday = afternoon.

Please come join us and share your = thoughts with those of us who have worked for a very long time for = this!