X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com ([209.85.219.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6343794 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:11:41 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.219.42; envelope-from=billhogarty@gmail.com Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j6so507987oag.29 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:11:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=e+N31KMPy2PI+PGvmkLkloQFQqDQDdbugndQMX46h94=; b=SlJBYPs5gIygvCC49cpWoMBB4Df4r33dgXkr7OnOUrh+nGh72NgGJyPAo8p1pXUVmu dmnVQCmPJbbFZUqlNKjn+gdaEosQkbcwdyQ4RRVF45ieTgsEFHaQLFXMutpyREOOpUNd HHJB0yzHUdp5l+NzBcf7ga5m2ENUXRaN6GCzIpdskjpjPkInrRiZSQG1I9vRl0TbqwXV +qYP9eSp3OGtCPiQQrcfNSXsm3D6b9o/JcK/0vvntC3igfsaTLaJu0ONTvu09jTi328G SuMbWG8BZ1jiQ7DTW7gtN41CBOrj6EsrWokgx80Ewmv3ye6JH6Gd2NT7Y+Ltw56SHZJk V7Pw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.24.131 with SMTP id u3mr4555820obf.29.1371859868696; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.191.100 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:11:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:11:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] IV P A/C From: "William A. Hogarty" To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3025227c5b604dfb304af --001a11c3025227c5b604dfb304af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dico: I have the exact same system as Jack Morgan installed in my IVP except that mine is a 12 volt system and all the pieces were obtained locally from the auto parts store for less than $ 2K. The only expensive part was the engine compressor mount obtained thru Lancair from TCM. That was over $ 800. I wouldn't try to install it in a completed plane since the evaporator is installed in the rear of the plane which is pretty hard to get to. Also, getting the hoses thru the pressure bulkhead was a little tricky. I have photos and drawings if you are interested. Best Regards, Bill Hogarty On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jack Morgan wrote: > Hi Dico, > > Lancair supplies an engine driven compressor type with the evaporator in > the hat shelf area and the condenser in the tail cone near the hydraulic > pump. The condenser is cooled with an electric fan which draws and exits > air from the belly below the hydraulic pump. This is the same as an > automotive unit and blows cold. There are no scoops or things sticking out > of the airplane so the main drag penalty is the weight. You will need to > double check but I believe the installation weighs about 35 lbs. > > Mine works well so I recommend it be included in your decision process. I > see no reason it cannot be installed in a completed IV but is a significant > undertaking. If your IV is a 12 volt airplane it could be marginal/too much > for the electrical system. No problem for a 24 volt airplane. > > I am in Michigan if you want to take a look at it as part of your decision > process. > > Jack Morgan > > On Jun 21, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote: > > *From: *Dico Reijers > *Subject: **Retro-fit Air Conditioning on IVP* > *Date: *June 20, 2013 7:46:25 AM EDT > *To: *lml@lancaironline.net > > > Hi All, > > Its starting to be summer here in Canada's east coast and I'm quickly > realizing that I'm going to need to do something re: heat in the cabin. > > Its just cooking in there and now I understand why so many people have AC > in their planes. > > I'm wondering if these AC units can be retro fit? Or are there other > options out there? Do these AC units blow "cold" air like a car's AC unit > or do they blow just "cooler than outside" air? > > Thanks, > > -Dico > > > --001a11c3025227c5b604dfb304af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dico:
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I have the exact same s= ystem as Jack Morgan installed in my IVP except that mine is a 12 volt syst= em and all
the pieces were obtained locally from the auto parts s= tore for less than $ 2K.=A0 The only expensive part was the
engine compressor mount obtained thru Lancair from TCM. That was over = $ 800.
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I wouldn't try to install it in a comple= ted plane since the evaporator is installed in the rear of the plane which = is
pretty hard to get to.=A0 Also, getting the hoses thru the pressure bu= lkhead was a little tricky.
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I have photos and drawi= ngs if you are interested.
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Best Regards, Bill Hogar= ty
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jack Morgan <j= morgan1023@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Dico,

Lanca= ir supplies an engine driven compressor type with the evaporator in the hat= shelf area and the condenser in the tail cone near the hydraulic pump. The= condenser is cooled with an electric fan which draws and exits air from th= e belly below the hydraulic pump. This is the same as an automotive unit an= d blows cold. There are no scoops or things sticking out of the airplane so= the main drag penalty is the weight. You will need to double check but I b= elieve the installation weighs about 35 lbs.

Mine works well so I recommend it be included in your d= ecision process. I see no reason it cannot be installed in a completed IV b= ut is a significant undertaking. If your IV is a 12 volt airplane it could = be marginal/too much for the electrical system. No problem for a 24 volt ai= rplane.

I am in Michigan if you want to take a look at it as pa= rt of your decision process.

Jack Morgan

On Jun 21, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote:
From:=A0Dico Reijers &l= t;dico@internetworks.ca>
Subject:=A0Retro-fit Ai= r Conditioning on IVP
Date:=A0June 20, 2013 7:46= :25 AM EDT


Hi All,

Its starting to be summer here in Canad= a's east coast and I'm quickly realizing that I'm going to need= to do something re: heat in the cabin.

Its just cooking in there an= d now I understand why so many people have AC in their planes.

I'm wondering if these AC units can be retro fit?=A0=A0 Or are ther= e other options out there?=A0=A0 Do these AC units blow "cold" ai= r like a car's AC unit or do they blow just "cooler than outside&q= uot; air?

Thanks,

-Dico


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