X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com ([50.87.16.10] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with SMTP id 6324187 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:57:11 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=50.87.16.10; envelope-from=danny@n107sd.com Received: (qmail 857 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2013 19:56:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host295.hostmonster.com) (66.147.240.95) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2013 19:56:33 -0000 Received: from [174.227.128.140] (port=9341 helo=[10.243.72.62]) by host295.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UnDdH-0004ti-HN; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:56:32 -0600 References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-61253BF4-6B05-481B-9BC9-A6890DF33972 X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) From: Danny Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Ipad advice X-Original-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:56:29 -0400 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Identified-User: {3234:host295.hostmonster.com:wunderwe:n107sd.com} {sentby:smtp auth 174.227.128.140 authed with danny@n107sd.com} --Apple-Mail-61253BF4-6B05-481B-9BC9-A6890DF33972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Symantec difference. Don't be didactic. Sent using my iPhone. Danny On Jun 13, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: > Uh, an approach plate is not "outdated" if it has not changed from its las= t print date. > =20 > In a message dated 6/12/2013 10:41:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, farnswor= th@charter.net writes: > I think you can legally fly with an outdated approach plate if you have ch= ecked to see if the latest update have not changed anything on the approa= ch you are using in the old data base. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Lynn >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gar= y Casey > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:07 PM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad advice >=20 > =20 >=20 > When it comes to legal advice, I'm not a good one to listen to, but since n= o one else answered your question, Here's what I think: You need to have ap= proach plates, and the normal Foreflight subscription will get you those. Y= ou do have to download the plates for each state you expect to visit. You d= on't legally need a paper backup. The 430W has to have a current database i= n order to legally fly GPS approaches. You can fly ILS or other non-GPS app= roaches without a current database. That's the way I understand it and that= 's what I've been using. You don't actually load approach plates into the 4= 30W - there is no such thing. >=20 > Gary >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > What actually is required to be IFR legal? >=20 > Do you have to have the approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W, or just =3D= > simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and keep using ForeFlight on =3D= > my iPad? --Apple-Mail-61253BF4-6B05-481B-9BC9-A6890DF33972 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Symantec difference. Don't be didactic.

Sent using my iPhone.

Danny

On Jun 13, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote:

Uh, an approach plate is not "outdated" if it has not changed from its last print date.

In a message dated 6/12/2013 10:41:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, farnsworth@charter.net writes:

I think you can legally fly with an outdated approach plate if you have checked to see if the latest update have not changed anything on the approach you are using in the old data base.

Lynn

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gary Casey
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:07 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad advice

When it comes to legal advice, I'm not a good one to listen to, but since no one else answered your question, Here's what I think: You need to have approach plates, and the normal Foreflight subscription will get you those. You do have to download the plates for each state you expect to visit. You don't legally need a paper backup. The 430W has to have a current database in order to legally fly GPS approaches. You can fly ILS or other non-GPS approaches without a current database. That's the way I understand it and that's what I've been using. You don't actually load approach plates into the 430W - there is no such thing.

Gary

What actually is required to be IFR legal?

Do you have to have the approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W, or just =
simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and keep using ForeFlight on =
my iPad?

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