X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 14:35:05 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6323501 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:26:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.80; envelope-from=farnsworth@charter.net Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130613152536.MJNY6169.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:25:36 -0400 Received: from OWNERPC ([24.240.23.88]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id nrRc1l00C1u2RW005rRcdn; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:25:36 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Cp/n6QED c=1 sm=1 a=K+sFKCfdL2IjB7v8SKVovw==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=t6uEHTjyCdEA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=fnkcN6e4nk1pHoUaFY0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=W2xm8o9MHJ87I3yU:21 a=DP96MLfit0VmXtbH:21 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=9OVgP_R0vs2YlETjR8EA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=kpyo6Ekce7pIHDbw:21 a=K+sFKCfdL2IjB7v8SKVovw==:117 From: "Lynn Farnsworth" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Ipad advice X-Original-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:25:31 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <00a801ce684a$3dc851d0$b958f570$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A9_01CE6828.B6B99800" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQJlpyyJ+6YiP1jW51geS0lAVmZfQpgFRIHQ This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01CE6828.B6B99800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well then, since the date changes every 28 days anything that is in the last cycle is "outdated". But, if the data for a particular approach has not changed with the new data base it is still legal to use the old data base for the approach. From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Sky2high@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:26 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad advice Uh, an approach plate is not "outdated" if it has not changed from its last print date. In a message dated 6/12/2013 10:41:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, farnsworth@charter.net writes: I think you can legally fly with an outdated approach plate if you have checked to see if the latest update have not changed anything on the approach you are using in the old data base. Lynn From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gary Casey Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:07 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad advice When it comes to legal advice, I'm not a good one to listen to, but since no one else answered your question, Here's what I think: You need to have approach plates, and the normal Foreflight subscription will get you those. You do have to download the plates for each state you expect to visit. You don't legally need a paper backup. The 430W has to have a current database in order to legally fly GPS approaches. You can fly ILS or other non-GPS approaches without a current database. That's the way I understand it and that's what I've been using. You don't actually load approach plates into the 430W - there is no such thing. Gary What actually is required to be IFR legal? Do you have to have the approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W, or just = simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and keep using ForeFlight on = my iPad? ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01CE6828.B6B99800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well then, = since the date changes every 28 days anything that is in the last cycle = is “outdated”. But, if the data for a particular approach = has not changed with the new data base it is still legal to use the old = data base for the approach.

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Sky2high@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:26 = AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad = advice

 

U= h, an approach plate is not "outdated" if it has not changed = from its last print date.

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I= n a message dated 6/12/2013 10:41:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, farnsworth@charter.net = writes:

I= think you can legally fly with an outdated approach plate if you have = checked to see if the latest update have not changed anything on the = approach you are using in the old data base.

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L= ynn

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= From:= Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Gary Casey
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 = 5:07 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sub= ject: [LML] Re: Ipad advice

 

When it comes to legal advice, I'm not a = good one to listen to, but since no one else answered your question, = Here's what I think:  You need to have approach plates, and the = normal Foreflight subscription will get you those.  You do have to = download the plates for each state you expect to visit.  You don't = legally need a paper backup.  The 430W has to have a current = database in order to legally fly GPS approaches.  You can fly ILS = or other non-GPS approaches without a current database.  That's the = way I understand it and that's what I've been using.  You don't = actually load approach plates into the 430W - there is no such = thing.

Gary

 





What actually is = required to be IFR legal?

Do you have to have the approach plates loaded = onto my GNS430W, or just =3D
simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and = keep using ForeFlight on =3D
my = iPad?

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