X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com ([205.188.108.133] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6323102 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:26:25 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.108.133; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 24D7F700000A9 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtb002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.197]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EA4ACE00008B for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:25:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com Full-name: Sky2high Message-ID: <2d14b.5f41fc76.3eeb225e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Ipad advice To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d14b.5f41fc76.3eeb225e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [67.175.156.123] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1371129951; bh=SDnworm/HFXcMxDIa1iWT7MYlP9HiJUKvpo4a2ABJPI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gd3eVxzweD7h0hAwduP6JVoAfiVZShJqNqi6QWYtsPOtynNixO1pW+apkFerSkE3o UyrHtf33F2cWZzDcg7W3CO1lOvXPtYaW+vDs3GjY5GzgEOYvamRUPQcXgaL2gaoejU T8SaYO2z1Kg94ZEjeT0/APnKGhgVJd1vuwVEE+rI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:478943936:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c751b9c85e294a --part1_2d14b.5f41fc76.3eeb225e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uh, an approach plate is not "outdated" if it has not changed from its last print date. In a message dated 6/12/2013 10:41:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, farnsworth@charter.net writes: I think you can legally fly with an outdated approach plate if you have checked to see if the latest update have not changed anything on the approach you are using in the old data base. Lynn From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gary Casey Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:07 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad advice When it comes to legal advice, I'm not a good one to listen to, but since no one else answered your question, Here's what I think: You need to have approach plates, and the normal Foreflight subscription will get you those. You do have to download the plates for each state you expect to visit. You don't legally need a paper backup. The 430W has to have a current database in order to legally fly GPS approaches. You can fly ILS or other non-GPS approaches without a current database. That's the way I understand it and that's what I've been using. You don't actually load approach plates into the 430W - there is no such thing. Gary What actually is required to be IFR legal? Do you have to have the approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W, or just = simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and keep using ForeFlight on = my iPad? --part1_2d14b.5f41fc76.3eeb225e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Uh, an approach plate is not "outdated" if it has not changed from its= last=20 print date.

In a message dated 6/12/2013 10:41:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 farnsworth@charter.net writes:

=

I think you = can=20 legally fly with an outdated approach plate if you have checked to see if= the=20 latest update have not changed anything on the approach you are using in = the=20 old data base.

<= /o:p>

Lynn

<= /o:p>

From: Lancair Ma= iling=20 List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gary=20 Casey
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:07 PM
To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad=20 advice

When it = comes=20 to legal advice, I'm not a good one to listen to, but since no one else= =20 answered your question, Here's what I think: You need to have appro= ach=20 plates, and the normal Foreflight subscription will get you those. = You=20 do have to download the plates for each state you expect to visit. = You=20 don't legally need a paper backup. The 430W has to have a current= =20 database in order to legally fly GPS approaches. You can fly ILS or= =20 other non-GPS approaches without a current database. That's the way= I=20 understand it and that's what I've been using. You don't actually l= oad=20 approach plates into the 430W - there is no such=20 thing.

Gary

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What actually is required to be IFR=20 legal?

Do you have to have t= he=20 approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W, or just =3D
simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and = keep=20 using ForeFlight on =3D
my=20 iPad?

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