X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:36:08 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from mail-pd0-f173.google.com ([209.85.192.173] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6322555 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:41:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.173; envelope-from=2thman1@gmail.com Received: by mail-pd0-f173.google.com with SMTP id v14so6977597pde.32 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:41:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.255.99 with SMTP id ap3mr1106623pad.102.1371098483318; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:41:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.1.109] ([24.56.209.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id vu10sm21701877pbc.27.2013.06.12.21.41.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:41:22 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-EBE1EE91-9CBA-4C42-8239-E2EB63C024F4 X-Original-Message-Id: <82B1633F-E3B3-431D-8A23-820D210A37D3@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] EGT on runup X-Original-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 21:41:19 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-EBE1EE91-9CBA-4C42-8239-E2EB63C024F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Craig, Will set EGT warnings higher. Llightspeed trigger is set at 22 or 25 degrees BTDC I think. The electronic= box may do things to the timing of the spark in terms of advancing or retar= ding. I don't know about that part. But it's weird to have the RPM stay th= e same when you select EI. I'm getting used to it after 60 hours of flying.= Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Craig Berland wrote: > John, > =20 > 1. I would set the EGT warning at 1650 degF. On a turbocharged engin= e, the only exhaust gas temp to be concerned with is TIT however I have foun= d by setting my EGT to 1650 degF, I get an early warning of rising CHT=E2=80= =99s if my EGT=E2=80=99s are slightly high. I run LOP and it is an early re= minder to lean a little. I find this most relevant when flying at FL 220 and= up. At full rich you should be in the EGT 1200=E2=80=99s range. > 2. When doing a Mag check, make sure all EGT=E2=80=99s rise when swi= tching to one mag and all EGT=E2=80=99s drop when switching back to both mag= s. Don=E2=80=99t worry about the drop. If you want to do a robust mag chec= k, do this while at cruise power. Caution=E2=80=A6tell your wife what is abo= ut to happen before doing this. > 3. The Lightspeed must be advancing the ignition timing at 1700 RPM o= therwise I would expect an EGT rise when selecting that source only. ?? > =20 > Craig Berland > N7VG > =20 > Hello all, > =20 > Hope you don=E2=80=99t mind I may be a pain in the butt for a while. I=E2= =80=99m breaking in this new Barrett Precision Engines TSIO 550 and hope so= me of you won=E2=80=99t mind answering niggling questions that will come up a= s I go through the process. I have about 6.5 hours on it now and the CHT=E2= =80=99s are coming down nicely. Still running full rich and cycling the pow= er in cruise from about 33 inches MAP down to 25=E2=80=9D in gradual increme= nts. Today I got to 12,500 and stayed there about an hour with CHT=E2=80=99= s never going to 400 and after the initial climb and level off, they stayed b= elow 380. Previous flights, I could not seem to keep #3 below 400 above abo= ut 10,000 ft, even when powering back. So it looks like the rings are seati= ng well and break in is on track. > =20 > I did notice one thing that I don=E2=80=99t recall seeing before during en= gine run up before takeoff. The EGT=E2=80=99s all went to caution temps whe= n I switched to the MAG at 1700 RPM. The drop on the MAG has been a bit hig= h =E2=80=93 usually over 100 RPM and inconsistent. Sometimes it could be 95= RPM and it has been as high as 145 RPM. Today I think it was close to th= e higher number. I have the EGT caution warning go off at 1475. I know tha= t=E2=80=99s not particularly high but it=E2=80=99s the first time bitching B= etty has gone ballistic six times in a row in short order like that. As exp= ected there is no drop on the Lightspeed ignition and the EGT=E2=80=99s don=E2= =80=99t seem to change much when selecting only that ignition source. > =20 > Any thoughts on that? > Regards, > John Barrett, CEO >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-EBE1EE91-9CBA-4C42-8239-E2EB63C024F4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Craig,

Will set EGT warnings higher.

Llightspeed trigger i= s set at 22 or 25 degrees BTDC I think.  The electronic box may do thin= gs to the timing of the spark in terms of advancing or retarding.  I do= n't know about that part.  But it's weird to have the RPM stay the same= when you select EI.  I'm getting used to it after 60 hours of flying.<= br>
Sent from my iPad


On Jun 12, 2013, at 9:= 17 AM, Craig Berland <cberland@s= ystems3.net> wrote:

John,

 

1.   = ;    I would set the EGT warning at 1650 degF. On a turbocharged engine,= the only exhaust gas temp to be concerned with is TIT however I have found b= y setting my EGT to 1650 degF, I get an early warning of rising CHT=E2=80=99= s if my EGT=E2=80=99s are slightly high.  I run LOP and it is an early r= eminder to lean a little. I find this most relevant when flying at FL 220 an= d up. At full rich you should be in the EGT 1200=E2=80=99s range.=

2.       When doing a Mag check, make sure all EG= T=E2=80=99s rise when switching to one mag and all EGT=E2=80=99s drop when s= witching back to both mags.  Don=E2=80=99t worry about the drop.  I= f you want to do a robust mag check, do this while at cruise power. Caution=E2= =80=A6tell your wife what is about to happen before doing this.

3.       The Lightspeed must be advancing the ignit= ion timing at 1700 RPM otherwise I would expect an EGT rise when selecting t= hat source only.  ??

 

Craig Berland

N7VG

 

Hello all,

 =

Hope you don=E2=80=99t mind I may be a pain= in the butt for a  while.  I=E2=80=99m breaking in this new Barre= tt Precision Engines  TSIO 550 and hope some of you won=E2=80=99t mind a= nswering niggling questions that will come up as I go through the process.&n= bsp; I have about 6.5 hours on it now and the CHT=E2=80=99s are coming down n= icely.  Still running full rich and cycling the power in cruise from ab= out 33 inches MAP down to 25=E2=80=9D in gradual increments.  Today I g= ot to 12,500 and stayed there about an hour with CHT=E2=80=99s never going t= o 400 and after the initial climb and level off, they stayed below 380. = ; Previous flights, I could not seem to keep #3 below 400 above about 10,000= ft, even when powering back.  So it looks like the rings are seating w= ell and break in is on track.

&nbs= p;

I did notice one thing that I don=E2=80=99= t recall seeing before during engine run up before takeoff.  The EGT=E2= =80=99s all went to caution temps when I switched to the MAG at 1700 RPM.&nb= sp; The drop on the MAG has been a bit high =E2=80=93 usually over 100 RPM a= nd inconsistent.  Sometimes it could be 95 RPM and it has been as high a= s 145 RPM.  Today I think   it was close to the higher number= .  I have the EGT caution warning go off at 1475.  I know that=E2=80= =99s not particularly high but it=E2=80=99s the first time bitching Betty ha= s gone ballistic six times in a row in short order like that.  As expec= ted there is no drop on the Lightspeed ignition and the EGT=E2=80=99s don=E2= =80=99t seem to change much when selecting only that ignition source.

 

A= ny thoughts on that?

Regards,

John Barrett, CEO



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