X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:41:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta31.charter.net ([216.33.127.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6322229 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:44:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.82; envelope-from=farnsworth@charter.net Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130612224332.BQOR24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:43:32 -0400 Received: from OWNERPC ([24.240.23.88]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id najY1l0061u2RW005ajYAd; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:43:32 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=foeE/yEf c=1 sm=1 a=K+sFKCfdL2IjB7v8SKVovw==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=t6uEHTjyCdEA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=xto4gOxnfoLb44J7b4sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=qf6LxaHXOntRIFUhFjYA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=uRq-6CPSAKEl9b3a:21 a=K+sFKCfdL2IjB7v8SKVovw==:117 From: "Lynn Farnsworth" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Ipad advice X-Original-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:43:30 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <007101ce67be$430ee5a0$c92cb0e0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01CE679C.BBFFB6A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFcfNXeA6wBZq+l1TxsOQANZ+uTdpoWgduw Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01CE679C.BBFFB6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you can legally fly with an outdated approach plate if you have checked to see if the latest update have not changed anything on the approach you are using in the old data base. Lynn From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Gary Casey Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:07 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad advice When it comes to legal advice, I'm not a good one to listen to, but since no one else answered your question, Here's what I think: You need to have approach plates, and the normal Foreflight subscription will get you those. You do have to download the plates for each state you expect to visit. You don't legally need a paper backup. The 430W has to have a current database in order to legally fly GPS approaches. You can fly ILS or other non-GPS approaches without a current database. That's the way I understand it and that's what I've been using. You don't actually load approach plates into the 430W - there is no such thing. Gary What actually is required to be IFR legal? Do you have to have the approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W, or just = simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and keep using ForeFlight on = my iPad? ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01CE679C.BBFFB6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think you = can legally fly with an outdated approach plate if you have checked to = see if the latest update have not changed anything on the approach you = are using in the old data base.

Lynn

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Gary Casey
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:07 = PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad = advice

When it comes to legal advice, I'm not a = good one to listen to, but since no one else answered your question, = Here's what I think: You need to have approach plates, and the = normal Foreflight subscription will get you those. You do have to = download the plates for each state you expect to visit. You don't = legally need a paper backup. The 430W has to have a current = database in order to legally fly GPS approaches. You can fly ILS = or other non-GPS approaches without a current database. That's the = way I understand it and that's what I've been using. You don't = actually load approach plates into the 430W - there is no such = thing.

Gary

What actually is = required to be IFR legal?

Do you have to have the approach plates loaded = onto my GNS430W, or just =3D
simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and = keep using ForeFlight on =3D
my = iPad?

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