X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:07:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.145] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6319318 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:55:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.190.145; envelope-from=peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Received: from BAY152-W45 ([65.54.190.187]) by bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:54:47 -0700 X-TMN: [qZyFCnVxzGE9XruFW4oZCk8CBpFb67cX] X-Originating-Email: [peterpawaviation@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3680d9be-78fb-409e-8fde-e02c1810149c_" From: PETER WILLIAMS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Ipad advice X-Original-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:54:47 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2013 15:54:47.0732 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFD3EF40:01CE66BB] --_3680d9be-78fb-409e-8fde-e02c1810149c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi there the ipad meets the requirements for lega IFR. assuming that you have the la= test updates of the plates and charts. if you want to use the 430 you can=3B legally your primary information woul= d have to be the ipad information and not the database of the Garmin 430 un= less its database is up to date. peter To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue=2C 11 Jun 2013 07:37:25 -0400 From: gw5@me.com Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad advice What actually is required to be IFR legal? Do you have to have the approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W=2C or just s= imply keep the GNS430W software up to date and keep using ForeFlight on my = iPad? On Jun 10=2C 2013=2C at 2:50 PM=2C PETER WILLIAMS wrote:hi there ipad has changed my flying life. i used to subscribe to Jeppesen for the north east USA=3B cost about $530.0= 0 a year NOW i have the whole USA for $75.00 a year and it is a lot easier to carry. i u= se foreflight and am very happy with it. ALTERNATIVES Garmin (pilot) Bendix-King (mywingman) WingX some programs even have synthetic vision.=20 ForeFlight does not have synthetic vision. However=2C i am very happy with = the program. i use it with Appareo GPS. it gives weather=2C fuel prices=2C TFRs and many other features=2C all whil= e in flight. Sold only by Sportys. the short coming is that this GPS could = only be used with ForeFlight. for an additional $75.00 per year you can hav= e flight tracking on your approach plate=2C it is something to see. several other apps that i would recommend would be Aeroweather (free) Flightscale (great weight and balance) MyRadar (free) Fltplan=20 flightaware BUY 64gb WITH WIFI AND 3G. The price differential is not that great. i bought two different ipads on ebay. today for example=2C $330.00 will buy= you a 64gb wifi=2C 3gb ipad 2. i paid $360.00 for a similar machine. you do not want an original ipad as they are too slow. as far as i know=2C = any of the ipad 2 or newer will do all the jobs needed for a pilot. yours peter Date: Mon=2C 10 Jun 2013 19:45:54 +0800 From: frederickmoreno@bigpond.com To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Ipad advice needed At our customary Monday morni= ng coffee fest in my hangar this AM (100 LL Java a specialty)=2C one of th= e fellows brought in an Ipad 3 with aviation apps and an ultrathin Logitech= keyboard cover which combined to overcome my buyers resistance. My wife a= nd I decided it was time to get a laptop with WiFi since we are in each oth= er's way a lot with our single desk top computer at home. By shifting the = problem statement to include aviation use as well as alternate use at home= =2C the shift from plain vanilla el cheapo laptop to Ipad 3 plus keyboard b= ecame seamless. So=2C before spending my money=2C I wanted to check with th= is group for the latest advice on Ipad3 or is the dual core 4 worthwhile?) = configurations for aviation use. How much memory? (We don't plan to use i= t for movies or a lot of photos). Also want to confirm a review I read tha= t the Ipad 3 has appropriate stand alone GPS=2C gyros=2C and accelerometer= s to permit use of aviation apps. One of the reviews showing comparisons = of various Ipads showed that Ipad 3 and 4 had GPS only in the 4 G versions= =2C but Australian 4G is different than US which created a flap over here s= ome time ago. I need to check to see if the 4G works in Australia. Open to= suggestions=2C cautions=2C recommendations and such. Fearless Fred=2C retu= rning to Apple after many years on a MacIntosh II=2C sadly abandoned over a= decade ago..... = --_3680d9be-78fb-409e-8fde-e02c1810149c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi there

the ipad meets t= he requirements for lega IFR. assuming that you have the latest updates of = the plates and charts.

if you want to use the 430 you can=3B legally= your primary information would have to be the ipad information and not the= database of the Garmin 430 unless its database is up to date.

peter=
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Tue=2C = 11 Jun 2013 07:37:25 -0400
From: gw5@me.com
Subject: [LML] Re: Ipad a= dvice

What actually is required to be IFR legal?

= Do you have to have the approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W=2C or just s= imply keep the GNS430W software up to date and keep using ForeFlight on my = iPad?




= On Jun 10=2C 2013=2C at 2:50 PM=2C PETER WILLIAMS <=3Bpeterpawaviation@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:<= /div>
=
hi there

ipad has changed my flying life.

i = used to subscribe to Jeppesen for the north east USA=3B cost about $530.00 = a year

NOW
i have the whole USA for $75.00 a year and it is a lot= easier to carry. i use foreflight and am very happy with it.

ALTERN= ATIVES
Garmin (pilot)
Bendix-King (mywingman)
WingX

some pr= ograms even have synthetic vision.=  =3B

ForeFlight does not have synthetic vision. However= =2C i am very happy with the program. i use it with Appareo GPS.
it give= s weather=2C fuel prices=2C TFRs and many other features=2C all while in fl= ight. Sold only by Sportys. the short coming is that this GPS could only be= used with ForeFlight. for an additional $75.00 per year you can have fligh= t tracking on your approach plate=2C it is something to see.

several= other apps that i would recommend would be

Aeroweather (free)
Fl= ightscale (great weight and balance)
MyRadar (free)
Fltplan =3B
flightaware

BUY 64= gb WITH WIFI AND 3G. The price differential is not that great.
i bought = two different ipads on ebay. today for example=2C $330.00 will buy you a 64= gb wifi=2C 3gb ipad 2. i paid $360.00 for a similar machine.

you do = not want an original ipad as they are too slow. as far as i know=2C any of = the ipad 2 or newer will do all the jobs needed for a pilot.

yours
peter




Date: Mon=2C= 10 Jun 2013 19:45:54 +0800
From: =3Bfrederickmo= reno@bigpond.com
To: = =3Blml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Ipad advice needed

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At our customary Monday morning coffee fest in my hangar= this AM =3B (100 LL Java a specialty)=2C one of the fellows brought in= an Ipad 3 with aviation apps and an ultrathin Logitech keyboard cover whic= h combined to overcome my buyers resistance. =3B
 =3B
My wife and I decided it was time to get a laptop with WiFi since we= are in each other's way a lot with our single desk top computer at home.&n= bsp=3B By shifting the problem statement to include aviation use as well as= alternate use at home=2C the shift from plain vanilla el cheapo laptop to = Ipad 3 plus keyboard became seamless.
 =3B
So=2C be= fore spending my money=2C I wanted to check with this group for the latest = advice on Ipad3 or is the dual core 4 worthwhile?) configurations for aviat= ion use. =3B How much memory? =3B (We don't plan to use it for movi= es or a lot of photos). =3B
 =3B
Also want to c= onfirm a review I read that the =3B Ipad 3 has appropriate stand alone = GPS=2C gyros=2C and accelerometers to permit use of aviation apps. =3B&= nbsp=3B One of the reviews showing comparisons of various Ipads showed that= Ipad 3 and 4 had GPS only in the 4 G versions=2C but Australian 4G is diff= erent than US which created a flap over here some time ago. =3B I need = to check to see if the 4G works in Australia.
 =3B
= Open to suggestions=2C cautions=2C recommendations and such.
&nbs= p=3B
Fearless Fred=2C returning to Apple after many years on a Ma= cIntosh II=2C sadly abandoned over a decade ago.....


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