X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6319155 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:51:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.67; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=aVzBg84yNFdsRToCLYAKwFfgKmAU9+/ARzwI99mqOiZ0d5lphzgruZRV7rfDd9YN; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.181.119.165] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UmPuw-0003x8-Uk for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:51:27 -0400 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-37--334421034 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Ipad advice needed Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:51:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9409d633740df0c5e9cbc65c61c3fac8078350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.181.119.165 --Apple-Mail-37--334421034 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OR.... remember Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. always fly the ipad and = don't get distracted. Ipad Aviation proficiency requires competency in at least these key = features: - proper use of the "OFF" button when entering a sacred place such as a = nice restaurant=20 - liberal use of the "DELETE" key when attacked by rampant emails. - proper use of the app shutdown feature (aka squalch button) to avoid = those tattling processes running in the "background" giving you = superfluous atc-like chatter - cover erroneous instrument display indicators (such as the apple home = page) to avoid the illusion that your ipad needs more money - in short, fly the ipad, don't let it fly you. On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:30 AM, John Barrett wrote: Hi Fred, I'm late to this party but my advice is DON'T DO IT. You will gradually be sucked away from the umbilical of your desk top in = an insidious and frustrating manner until you will long for the simple = days when you could wait for your return home to get email, to order = some part online or get an answer to a vexing question while you are in = a bar, navigate to an address, find a restaurant or carry on any sort = of activity that can be expedited by connectivity. You will recall = wistfully when you could carry your 10 pound laptop in its own suitcase = on your travels through airport security. Heres my sad history of addiction: it all started innocuously enough. = Anne got me an iPad 1 as a present, Xmas or bday a few years ago. She = knew I had NO interest in Apple, iPhones, 3G and all that garbage that = you have to buy subscriptions for so she left that out. I enjoyed = playing with it and soon discovered ForeFlight. Got a Dual blue tooth = GPS shortly thereafter and my short path to reliance in the cockpit = brought about shaking hands and a sweaty neck every time i failed to = bring the spaghetti ball of cords to hook all that up. Abstinence may = have saved me then, but I was too poor to afford the psychiatric help I = needed. There were no 12 step programs available in my community for = iPad junkies so that avenue to health was denied me. I did look for = some ii meetings but could find none. Along came Square about a year and a half ago. This gave me an excuse = to feed my addiction by donating the iPad 1 to my dental business for = processing credit transactions and to buy a new iPad 2 with all the = memory and other features available. I got an identical unit for Anne = so that the awful disease she had saddled me with could be experienced = by her as well. Now the iPad is like an appendage and goes everywhere with me. = Fortunately, unlike other malignancies it doesn't grow in size although = there does appear to be the threat of metastases on the horizon. =20 To summarize the clever ways Apple continues to guarantee an agonizing, = slow downward spiral into hell I offer the following observations: 1. the iPad looks like a small, very useful computer. IT ISN'T. You = want the keyboard to behave like your PC one does. No such luck and it = will quarantee mispelings and mistatements wehre you might want to say = one very intelligent thing in an eamil but instead you insult the = recipirnt in rahter graphic terms 2. Spreadsheet and word programs are only superficially like the ones = you know. You are tempted to use them so you do, but they fall short. =20= 3. Attachments to email? forget it. 4. Your list of unread emails on your desktop will start to resemble a = backed up toilet and will only worsen over time. 5. This list is the tip of the iceberg. The true picture of the problem with regards to flying is epitomized by = an experience the other day in the LIVP. I have a Garmin 430, two = Chelton screens, and a Garmin 496 in the panel. I was putting hours on = the new Barrett TSIO 550 for break in and decided to run up to = Bellingham. I was frustrated in my attempts to get all the airport = information I wanted because I didn't have the iPad with me. That's = SICK!=20 So Fred, take it from one who has no chance for recovery. Avoid that = first step my friend or you'll wind up in a gutter somewhere like me. Anyone want to trade a new iPad 3 for a new iPhone or Mini iPad? I'm = going to start dealing so I can afford my habit. John Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:45 AM, "Frederick Moreno" = wrote: > > At our customary Monday morning coffee fest in my hangar this AM (100 = LL Java a specialty), one of the fellows brought in an Ipad 3 with = aviation apps and an ultrathin Logitech keyboard cover which combined to = overcome my buyers resistance.=20 > =20 > My wife and I decided it was time to get a laptop with WiFi since we = are in each other's way a lot with our single desk top computer at home. = By shifting the problem statement to include aviation use as well as = alternate use at home, the shift from plain vanilla el cheapo laptop to = Ipad 3 plus keyboard became seamless. > =20 > So, before spending my money, I wanted to check with this group for = the latest advice on Ipad3 or is the dual core 4 worthwhile?) = configurations for aviation use. How much memory? (We don't plan to = use it for movies or a lot of photos).=20 > =20 > Also want to confirm a review I read that the Ipad 3 has appropriate = stand alone GPS, gyros, and accelerometers to permit use of aviation = apps. One of the reviews showing comparisons of various Ipads showed = that Ipad 3 and 4 had GPS only in the 4 G versions, but Australian 4G is = different than US which created a flap over here some time ago. I need = to check to see if the 4G works in Australia. > =20 > Open to suggestions, cautions, recommendations and such. > =20 > Fearless Fred, returning to Apple after many years on a MacIntosh II, = sadly abandoned over a decade ago..... --Apple-Mail-37--334421034 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
- liberal use of = the "DELETE" key when attacked by rampant emails.
- proper use = of the app shutdown feature (aka squalch button)  to avoid those = tattling processes running in the "background" giving you superfluous =  atc-like chatter
- cover erroneous instrument display = indicators (such as the apple home page) to avoid the illusion that your = ipad needs more money
- in short, fly the ipad, don't let it = fly you.

On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:30 AM, John = Barrett wrote:

Hi Fred,

I'm late to this party but my advice = is DON'T DO IT.

You will gradually be sucked = away from the umbilical of your desk top in an insidious and frustrating = manner until you will long for  the simple days when you could wait = for your return home to get email, to order some part online or get an = answer to a vexing question while you are in a  bar, navigate to an = address, find a restaurant or carry on any sort of activity that can be = expedited by connectivity.  You will recall wistfully when you = could carry your 10 pound laptop in its own suitcase on your travels = through airport security.

Heres my sad history = of addiction:  it all started innocuously enough.  Anne got me = an iPad 1 as a present, Xmas or bday a few years ago.  She knew I = had NO interest in Apple, iPhones, 3G and all that garbage that you have = to buy subscriptions for so  she left that out.  I enjoyed = playing with it and soon discovered ForeFlight.  Got a Dual blue = tooth GPS shortly thereafter and my short path to reliance in the = cockpit brought about shaking hands and a sweaty neck every time i = failed to bring the spaghetti ball of cords to hook all that up. =  Abstinence may have saved me then, but I was too poor to afford = the psychiatric help I needed.  There were no  12 step = programs available in my community for iPad junkies so that avenue to = health was denied me.  I did look for some ii meetings but could = find none.

Along came Square about a year and a = half ago.  This gave me an excuse to feed my addiction by donating = the iPad 1 to my dental business for processing credit transactions and = to buy a new iPad 2 with all the memory and other features available. =   I got an identical unit for Anne so that the awful disease she = had saddled me with could be experienced by her as = well.

Now the iPad is like an appendage and = goes everywhere with me.  Fortunately, unlike other malignancies it = doesn't grow in size although there does appear to be the threat of = metastases on the horizon.    

To = summarize the clever ways Apple continues to guarantee an agonizing, = slow downward spiral into hell I offer the following = observations:

1. the iPad looks like a =  small, very useful computer.  IT ISN'T.  You want the = keyboard to behave like your PC one does.  No such luck and it will = quarantee mispelings and mistatements wehre you might want to say one = very intelligent thing in an  eamil but instead you insult the = recipirnt in rahter graphic terms
2. Spreadsheet and word = programs are only superficially like the ones you know.  You are = tempted to use them so you do, but they fall short.  
3. = Attachments to  email?  forget it.
4. Your list of = unread emails on your desktop will start to resemble a backed up toilet = and will only worsen over time.
5. This list is the tip of the = iceberg.

The true picture of the problem with =  regards to flying is epitomized by an experience the other day in = the LIVP.  I have a Garmin 430, two Chelton screens, and a Garmin = 496 in the panel.  I was putting hours on the new Barrett TSIO =  550 for break in and decided to run up to Bellingham.  I was = frustrated in my attempts to get all the airport information I wanted = because I didn't have the iPad with me.  That's = SICK! 

So Fred, take it from one who has = no chance for recovery.  Avoid that first step my friend or you'll = wind up in a gutter somewhere like me.

Anyone = want to trade a new iPad 3 for a new iPhone or Mini iPad?  I'm = going to start dealing so I can afford my = habit.

John


Sent = from my iPad


On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:45 AM, = "Frederick Moreno" <frederickmoreno@bigpond.com> wrote:

<SENDER_EMAILfrederickmoreno@bigpond@@com.png>=
At our customary Monday morning coffee fest in my hangar this = AM  (100 LL Java a specialty), one of the fellows brought in an = Ipad 3 with aviation apps and an ultrathin Logitech keyboard cover which = combined to overcome my buyers resistance. 
 
My wife and I decided it was time to get a laptop with WiFi since = we are in each other's way a lot with our single desk top computer at = home.  By shifting the problem statement to include aviation use as = well as alternate use at home, the shift from plain vanilla el cheapo = laptop to Ipad 3 plus keyboard became seamless.
 
So, before spending my money, I wanted to check with this group for = the latest advice on Ipad3 or is the dual core 4 worthwhile?) = configurations for aviation use.  How much memory?  (We don't = plan to use it for movies or a lot of photos). 
 
Also want to confirm a review I read that the  Ipad 3 has = appropriate stand alone GPS, gyros, and accelerometers to permit use of = aviation apps.   One of the reviews showing comparisons of = various Ipads showed that Ipad 3 and 4 had GPS only in the 4 G versions, = but Australian 4G is different than US which created a flap over here = some time ago.  I need to check to see if the 4G works in = Australia.
 
Open to suggestions, cautions, recommendations and such.
 
Fearless Fred, returning to Apple after many years on a MacIntosh = II, sadly abandoned over a decade ago.....

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