X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:37:25 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com ([17.158.58.247] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6318464 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:49:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.158.58.247; envelope-from=gw5@me.com Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-066-056-222-162.ec.res.rr.com [66.56.222.162]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MO800IYC61WZI10@nk11p08mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:49:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-11_05:2013-06-10,2013-06-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1306110050 From: George Wehrung Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_765C8AE9-7AA9-4EC8-A0BC-30C52FDFDAC4" X-Original-Message-id: <65A75F7C-F198-40C3-B97D-3EB95B2428AC@me.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Ipad advice X-Original-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:49:08 -0400 References: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) --Apple-Mail=_765C8AE9-7AA9-4EC8-A0BC-30C52FDFDAC4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 What actually is required to be IFR legal? Do you have to have the approach plates loaded onto my GNS430W, or just = simply keep the GNS430W software up to date and keep using ForeFlight on = my iPad? On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:50 PM, PETER WILLIAMS = wrote: > hi there >=20 > ipad has changed my flying life. >=20 > i used to subscribe to Jeppesen for the north east USA; cost about = $530.00 a year >=20 > NOW > i have the whole USA for $75.00 a year and it is a lot easier to = carry. i use foreflight and am very happy with it. >=20 > ALTERNATIVES > Garmin (pilot) > Bendix-King (mywingman) > WingX >=20 > some programs even have synthetic vision.=20 >=20 > ForeFlight does not have synthetic vision. However, i am very happy = with the program. i use it with Appareo GPS. > it gives weather, fuel prices, TFRs and many other features, all while = in flight. Sold only by Sportys. the short coming is that this GPS could = only be used with ForeFlight. for an additional $75.00 per year you can = have flight tracking on your approach plate, it is something to see. >=20 > several other apps that i would recommend would be >=20 > Aeroweather (free) > Flightscale (great weight and balance) > MyRadar (free) > Fltplan=20 > flightaware >=20 > BUY 64gb WITH WIFI AND 3G. The price differential is not that great. > i bought two different ipads on ebay. today for example, $330.00 will = buy you a 64gb wifi, 3gb ipad 2. i paid $360.00 for a similar machine. >=20 > you do not want an original ipad as they are too slow. as far as i = know, any of the ipad 2 or newer will do all the jobs needed for a = pilot. >=20 > yours >=20 > peter >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:45:54 +0800 > From: frederickmoreno@bigpond.com > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Ipad advice needed >=20 > > At our customary Monday morning coffee fest in my hangar this AM (100 = LL Java a specialty), one of the fellows brought in an Ipad 3 with = aviation apps and an ultrathin Logitech keyboard cover which combined to = overcome my buyers resistance.=20 > =20 > My wife and I decided it was time to get a laptop with WiFi since we = are in each other's way a lot with our single desk top computer at home. = By shifting the problem statement to include aviation use as well as = alternate use at home, the shift from plain vanilla el cheapo laptop to = Ipad 3 plus keyboard became seamless. > =20 > So, before spending my money, I wanted to check with this group for = the latest advice on Ipad3 or is the dual core 4 worthwhile?) = configurations for aviation use. How much memory? (We don't plan to = use it for movies or a lot of photos).=20 > =20 > Also want to confirm a review I read that the Ipad 3 has appropriate = stand alone GPS, gyros, and accelerometers to permit use of aviation = apps. One of the reviews showing comparisons of various Ipads showed = that Ipad 3 and 4 had GPS only in the 4 G versions, but Australian 4G is = different than US which created a flap over here some time ago. I need = to check to see if the 4G works in Australia. > =20 > Open to suggestions, cautions, recommendations and such. > =20 > Fearless Fred, returning to Apple after many years on a MacIntosh II, = sadly abandoned over a decade ago..... >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_765C8AE9-7AA9-4EC8-A0BC-30C52FDFDAC4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 What actually is required to be = IFR legal?

Do you have to have the approach plates = loaded onto my GNS430W, or just simply keep the GNS430W software up to = date and keep using ForeFlight on my = iPad?




On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:50 PM, PETER WILLIAMS <peterpawaviation@hotmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

hi there

ipad has changed my flying life.

i = used to subscribe to Jeppesen for the north east USA; cost about $530.00 = a year

NOW
i have the whole USA for $75.00 a year and it is a = lot easier to carry. i use foreflight and am very happy with = it.

ALTERNATIVES
Garmin (pilot)
Bendix-King = (mywingman)
WingX

some programs even have synthetic = vision. 

ForeFlight does not = have synthetic vision. However, i am very happy with the program. i use = it with Appareo GPS.
it gives weather, fuel prices, TFRs and many = other features, all while in flight. Sold only by Sportys. the short = coming is that this GPS could only be used with ForeFlight. for an = additional $75.00 per year you can have flight tracking on your approach = plate, it is something to see.

several other apps that i would = recommend would be

Aeroweather (free)
Flightscale (great = weight and balance)
MyRadar (free)
Fltplan 
flightaware

BUY = 64gb WITH WIFI AND 3G. The price differential is not that great.
i = bought two different ipads on ebay. today for example, $330.00 will buy = you a 64gb wifi, 3gb ipad 2. i paid $360.00 for a similar = machine.

you do not want an original ipad as they are too slow. = as far as i know, any of the ipad 2 or newer will do all the jobs needed = for a pilot.

yours

peter




Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:45:54 +0800
From: frederickmoreno@bigpond.com
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject= : [LML] Ipad advice needed

At = our customary Monday morning coffee fest in my hangar this AM  (100 = LL Java a specialty), one of the fellows brought in an Ipad 3 with = aviation apps and an ultrathin Logitech keyboard cover which combined to = overcome my buyers resistance. 
 
My wife = and I decided it was time to get a laptop with WiFi since we are in each = other's way a lot with our single desk top computer at home.  By = shifting the problem statement to include aviation use as well as = alternate use at home, the shift from plain vanilla el cheapo laptop to = Ipad 3 plus keyboard became seamless.
 
So, = before spending my money, I wanted to check with this group for the = latest advice on Ipad3 or is the dual core 4 worthwhile?) configurations = for aviation use.  How much memory?  (We don't plan to use it = for movies or a lot of photos). 
 
Also = want to confirm a review I read that the  Ipad 3 has appropriate = stand alone GPS, gyros, and accelerometers to permit use of aviation = apps.   One of the reviews showing comparisons of various = Ipads showed that Ipad 3 and 4 had GPS only in the 4 G versions, but = Australian 4G is different than US which created a flap over here some = time ago.  I need to check to see if the 4G works in = Australia.
 
Open to suggestions, cautions, = recommendations and such.
 
Fearless Fred, = returning to Apple after many years on a MacIntosh II, sadly abandoned = over a decade ago.....


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