X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:19:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ye0-f177.google.com ([209.85.213.177] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6316798 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:01:47 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.177; envelope-from=mehapgood@gmail.com Received: by mail-ye0-f177.google.com with SMTP id q11so1071428yen.8 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:01:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.16.230 with SMTP id h66mr2455658yhh.103.1370872872645; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:01:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.2.69] (rrcs-70-61-86-226.midsouth.biz.rr.com. [70.61.86.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z65sm15649571yhc.9.2013.06.10.07.01.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:01:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: Matt Hapgood User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.4.130416 X-Original-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:01:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [LML] Ipad advice needed From: Matt Hapgood X-Original-To: Lancair List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Ipad advice needed In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="B_3453703269_20865776" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3453703269_20865776 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3453703269_20876105" --B_3453703269_20876105 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I use an iPad 3 in my personal life and for back-up in my airplane (backs u= p my 696). Here are my randomly organized thoughts: 1. I love my iPad. Being able to acces email, weather, internet almost anywhere is fantastically nice, and having a decent keyboard (not a phone) is a huge plus, as is the fact it fires up instantly (unlike most notebooks). 2. Personally, I don't like the iPad keyboards, as I do fine with the on-screen one and don't like the amount of real-estate required by a separate keyboard (I also have a thin notebook computer I'll use if I want = a real keyboard and computer). 3. Memory=8A you don't need a ton if you don't store several movies and gobs of photos. This moment I have 3 movies, 488 songs and 6164 photos on my 32 GB iPad, and still have 4 GB free. 4. An iPad is not necessarily a good computer replacement. It's still a pretty lame substitution for spreadsheet work or anything that has heavy us= e of drop down windows, drag-and-drop features, etc. 5. I flew with a buddy last weekend with his iPad mini on the yoke of his 310. The mini was EXCELLENT in that situation. There's no room in my plan= e to mount either a mini or regular iPad so I prefer the larger iPad. But th= e mini is really really really nice for single-use aviation purposes. He als= o had an external GPS. I think that is probably necessary for it to be a goo= d aviation device. I'm not an expert on the various external devices, but I'= d probably look for one with the ADS stuff too so I could get free weather. Matt From: Frederick Moreno Reply-To: Lancair List Date: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:45 AM To: Lancair List Subject: [LML] Ipad advice needed At our customary Monday morning coffee fest in my hangar this AM (100 LL Java a specialty), one of the fellows brought in an Ipad 3 with aviation apps and an ultrathin Logitech keyboard cover which combined to overcome my buyers resistance.=20 =20 My wife and I decided it was time to get a laptop with WiFi since we are in each other's way a lot with our single desk top computer at home. By shifting the problem statement to include aviation use as well as alternate use at home, the shift from plain vanilla el cheapo laptop to Ipad 3 plus keyboard became seamless. =20 So, before spending my money, I wanted to check with this group for the latest advice on Ipad3 or is the dual core 4 worthwhile?) configurations fo= r aviation use. How much memory? (We don't plan to use it for movies or a lot of photos).=20 =20 Also want to confirm a review I read that the Ipad 3 has appropriate stand alone GPS, gyros, and accelerometers to permit use of aviation apps. One of the reviews showing comparisons of various Ipads showed that Ipad 3 and = 4 had GPS only in the 4 G versions, but Australian 4G is different than US which created a flap over here some time ago. I need to check to see if th= e 4G works in Australia. =20 Open to suggestions, cautions, recommendations and such. =20 Fearless Fred, returning to Apple after many years on a MacIntosh II, sadly abandoned over a decade ago..... --B_3453703269_20876105 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I use an iPad 3 in= my personal life and for back-up in my airplane (backs up my 696).  He= re are my randomly organized thoughts:

1.  I l= ove my iPad.  Being able to acces email, weather, internet almost anywh= ere is fantastically nice, and having a decent keyboard (not a phone) is a h= uge plus, as is the fact it fires up instantly (unlike most notebooks).

2.  Personally, I don't like the iPad keyboards, a= s I do fine with the on-screen one and don't like the amount of real-estate = required by a separate keyboard (I also have a thin notebook computer I'll u= se if I want a real keyboard and computer).

3. &nbs= p;Memory… you don't need a ton if you don't store several movies and g= obs of photos.  This moment I have 3 movies, 488 songs and 6164 photos = on my 32 GB iPad, and still have 4 GB free.

4. &nbs= p;An iPad is not necessarily a good computer replacement.  It's still a= pretty lame substitution for spreadsheet work or anything that has heavy us= e of drop down windows, drag-and-drop features, etc.

5.  I flew with a buddy last weekend with his iPad mini on the yoke o= f his 310.  The mini was EXCELLENT in that situation.  There's no = room in my plane to mount either a mini or regular iPad so I prefer the larg= er iPad.  But the mini is really really really nice for single-use avia= tion purposes.  He also had an external GPS.  I think that is prob= ably necessary for it to be a good aviation device.  I'm not an expert = on the various external devices, but I'd probably look for one with the ADS = stuff too so I could get free weather.
=
Matt

From: Frederick Moren= o <frederickmoreno@bigpond.c= om>
Reply-To: Lancair List = <lml@lancaironline.net>
= Date: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:45 AMTo: Lancair List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Ipad advice needed

At our customary Monday= morning coffee fest in my hangar this AM  (100 LL Java a specialty), o= ne of the fellows brought in an Ipad 3 with aviation apps and an ultrathin L= ogitech keyboard cover which combined to overcome my buyers resistance. = ;
 
My wife and I decided it was time to get a lap= top with WiFi since we are in each other's way a lot with our single desk to= p computer at home.  By shifting the problem statement to include aviat= ion use as well as alternate use at home, the shift from plain vanilla el ch= eapo laptop to Ipad 3 plus keyboard became seamless.
 
=
So, before spending my money, I wanted to check with this group for the= latest advice on Ipad3 or is the dual core 4 worthwhile?) configurations fo= r aviation use.  How much memory?  (We don't plan to use it for mo= vies or a lot of photos). 
 
Also want to conf= irm a review I read that the  Ipad 3 has appropriate stand alone GPS, g= yros, and accelerometers to permit use of aviation apps.   One of = the reviews showing comparisons of various Ipads showed that Ipad 3 and 4 ha= d GPS only in the 4 G versions, but Australian 4G is different than US which= created a flap over here some time ago.  I need to check to see if the= 4G works in Australia.
 
Open to suggestions, caut= ions, recommendations and such.
 
Fearless Fred, r= eturning to Apple after many years on a MacIntosh II, sadly abandoned over a= decade ago.....
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