X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:40:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from mail-da0-f48.google.com ([209.85.210.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTPS id 6188511 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 13:24:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.48; envelope-from=2thman1@gmail.com Received: by mail-da0-f48.google.com with SMTP id p8so2692777dan.35 for ; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:22:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.120.173 with SMTP id ld13mr38274398pab.187.1365441760827; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:22:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.1.142] (c-66-235-58-245.sea.wa.customer.broadstripe.net. [66.235.58.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lo3sm21101342pab.19.2013.04.08.10.22.39 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:22:40 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Original-Message-Id: <7755C480-9349-4BB7-8680-A89E234B10DC@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Gear Strut Compression Tool X-Original-Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:22:38 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List I understand your logic on this, Steve, and agree as far as it goes. The pr= oblem with LIV's and maybe not with Legacys is that the nose gear can easily= collapse during ground ops if hydraulic pressure is down and the air strut i= s weak. Different issue than emergency extension in flight. I would suggest= at least for those of us in the LIV condition, testing the strut on the gro= und is important.=20 Regards, John Sent from my iPad On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:54 AM, "Steve Colwell" wrote: > John, >=20 > Actually, the In Flight alternate gear extension test is the best way to > determine everything about a gas spring only gear extension. If the gear > will not go down when tested in flight, you know there is a problem to be > found and fixed. >=20 > Periodically, an In Flight alternate gear extension should be done to veri= fy > all three will come down and lock. Record the airspeed that Gas spring > operated gear locks down to establish a trend for the gas springs getting > weaker. (Side note, I bought a Eldorado in 1979 with one of the new gas > spring trunk lifts. After the third one was replaced and the warranty > expired I used a broom stick, fortunately they are much better and cost le= ss > now.)=20 >=20 > As previously mentioned; when the real thing happens, reduce airspeed to > minimize resistance when the dump valve is opened. Just curious, how many= > of us have had to resort to Emergency Alternate Gear Extension? >=20 > Steve Colwell Legacy >=20 >=20 >=20 > Personally I would not rely on a free fall test to check the air strut. W= ay > too much at stake if you're wrong. I would think the nose gear could free= > fall perhaps without adequate air strut effectiveness. Until someone test= s > this with multiple air struts that have various strengths I would not trus= t > this. >=20 >=20 > My .02. >=20 > John >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Dennis wrote: >>=20 >> I know this might not work in a Lancair IV, but in my Legacy, I do an > alternate gear extension test in flight, using gravity and the gas shocks,= > to confirm that I get three down and locked. If it works, I don't think > there is any need to remove the gas shock and test it. >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l