X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 09:55:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm31-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.136.216.212] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTPS id 6184217 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 09:55:17 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.136.216.212; envelope-from=bu131@swbell.net Received: from [98.137.12.59] by nm31.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 13:54:42 -0000 Received: from [98.137.0.73] by tm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 13:54:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 13:54:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 300539.22874.bm@smtp125-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: p5ALWEAVM1kRgBKKslOKeVhwHtenv3PPb__K7c_YARaQ_ee VkV8.XiyZMM6BWh.s2bNjwSyVyReZBVE3XoSYNjlHeyKotpSKdkKo.iTZ.9m m6pAWQgOYv20c5sjp1pK1Dpfw_J6fLrn5X4DCKAJPXSoTYK2UhH1E.llw_sc xxteLtXOPOP0B3SzGSrFGOnE11dPGML_A80y_nyLYLvDNs6AEuhvwmJ5AVzj gJhPZL42d7sb0UWsRv_E0g8YfzcEkgkmssAwJD51oSGD4C_jFcBBsBSYwJkD ogAeQer9IwQ0wE3agYo5FJ7WW3KJnH_plTJYrjxMEma41Q9LSDEdJ9wtn1q. sZ_unVwE3soUmlN9PmmWETXm2kSp2KCQ8z5aLkC0hH9pHQWtLt6oWX9iiVaY StC.QcsxIe_sNAs_Gx94qnKqaIESvV80zPLeUzCloO9idTHzSoScfElWjEdI WD8BABu0PQwraTu1IAFA2wtaJfrVfTmx_hPKJIpAcHOOFdxgKbk87lnBZzWf zkIJrqcRmf1bLikVcFmK0.1J9pL0IPn.1jYrcW6zbgUUklaRKtzx5acbqCyt lrYBv X-Yahoo-SMTP: eERJTJCswBCu0l0QxPF_oyc3n8.DQSe28zFd2dc- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.38.87.87] (bu131@198.228.227.240 with xymcookie) by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Apr 2013 13:54:42 +0000 UTC Subject: Re: [LML] Re: nose gear collapse References: From: Andrea Katz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-31FD80A6-FC7F-4338-B03F-30DFD05F7C0D X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <7EFC64E3-A26F-4890-A9BB-54396A06937E@swbell.net> X-Original-Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 09:54:40 -0400 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-31FD80A6-FC7F-4338-B03F-30DFD05F7C0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am interested will buy one Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:47 AM, John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> wrote: > I recently removed the air strut referred to so I could test it. It teste= d fine but then I spent a week trying to figure out a way to re install. Ha= ve built a tool that makes it a simple one man task. Am considering making t= hem for sale if enough interest. I built it from scrap materials so don't k= now costs yet. >=20 > Will price if there are enough folks who want them. >=20 > John Barrett >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 >=20 > On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "William A. Hogarty" w= rote: >=20 >> Hello Greg: >>=20 >> I had completed my annual in May which included a retraction test.......H= OWEVER I did not remove the nose gear gas strut >> to actually measure the pressure. in the strut My bad. After the in= cident, I found it measured 55 PSI Enough to lower the >> nose gear but but not enough to lock it overcenter. Actually there is no= way to make sure the strut is fully pressurized >> without removing it. I recommend replacing the strut at each annual. >>=20 >> As far as the strakes go, I found them to be the best mod for the IV espe= cially for the price. The plane was pretty squirley on takeoff >> especially if using 65 kts to rotate. I now start a slow rotation at 70 k= ts using a couple clicks of nose up and right rudder trim. The plane >> seems much happier. I have attached a photo showing how easy there were t= o attach. . =20 >>=20 >> Did you build your plane? First flight yet? Any other questions? >>=20 >> Happy Building....Regards, Bill Hogarty >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Greg Milnar wrote: >>> Hello Bill, >>> =20 >>> I am sorry to hear about your nose gear collapse. >>> I was hoping to learn the cause from the lml blog to avoid bringing the t= opic up with you. >>> My lVP is ready to fly but every time I read of someone having a bad day= , I ask myself again if everything has been proofed as well as possible. I d= id do the service bulletin bracket upgrade but I do not know so may lV's hav= e nose gear collapses. >>> I notice that your plane has tail strakes. Do you notice a difference i= n stability? >>> Thank you for your time. >>> =20 >>> Greg Milnar >>> 651-738-3117 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>=20 >> >> -- >> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml --Apple-Mail-31FD80A6-FC7F-4338-B03F-30DFD05F7C0D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am interested will buy one

Se= nt from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:47 AM, John Barrett <= ;2thman1@gmail.com> wrote:
I recently removed the air strut re= ferred to so I could test it.  It tested fine but then I spent a week t= rying to figure out a way to re install.  Have built a tool that makes i= t a simple one man task.  Am considering making them for sale if enough= interest.  I built it from scrap materials so don't know costs yet.

Will price if there are enough folks who want them.

John Barrett

Sent from my iPad

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On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "William A. Hogarty" <billhogarty@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hello Greg:

I had completed my annual in May which included a retract= ion test.......HOWEVER I did not remove the nose gear gas strut
to actually measure the pressure. in the strut    My bad.=    After the incident, I found it measured 55 PSI  Enough to= lower the
nose gear but but not enough to lock it overcenter.  Ac= tually there is no way to make sure the strut is fully pressurized
without removing it.  I recommend replacing the strut at ea= ch annual.

As far as the strakes go, I found t= hem to be the best mod for the IV especially for the price.  The plane w= as pretty squirley on takeoff
especially if using 65 kt= s to rotate.  I now start a slow rotation at 70 kts using a couple clic= ks of nose up and right rudder trim.  The plane
seems much happier.  I have attached a photo showing ho= w easy there were to attach. .  

Did you build your plane?  First flight yet?  Any other q= uestions?

Happy Building....Regards, Bill Hogarty


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On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Greg Miln= ar <greg456pw@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bill,
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I am sorry to hear about your nose gear collapse.
I= was hoping to learn the cause from the lml blog to avoid bringing the topic= up with you.
My lVP is ready to fly but every time I read of someone having a bad da= y, I ask myself again if everything has been proofed as well as possibl= e. I did do the service bulletin bracket upgrade but I do not know so may lV= 's have nose gear collapses.
I notice that your plane has tail strakes.  Do you notice a differ= ence in stability?
Thank you for your time.
 
=
Greg Milnar


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