X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 09:47:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from mail-da0-f48.google.com ([209.85.210.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTPS id 6183785 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 23:24:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.48; envelope-from=2thman1@gmail.com Received: by mail-da0-f48.google.com with SMTP id p8so1817561dan.7 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.202.103 with SMTP id kh7mr9280248pbc.76.1365218622044; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: <2thman1@gmail.com> Received: from [10.177.122.61] (mobile-166-147-083-078.mycingular.net. [166.147.83.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jk1sm16723799pbb.14.2013.04.05.20.23.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 20:23:41 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-E440899A-66DB-4ADD-8D82-37D26B3CA321 X-Original-Message-Id: <133CF541-A73C-4D6A-BB95-A88D0031B30D@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: nose gear collapse X-Original-Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 20:23:27 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-E440899A-66DB-4ADD-8D82-37D26B3CA321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently removed the air strut referred to so I could test it. It tested f= ine but then I spent a week trying to figure out a way to re install. Have b= uilt a tool that makes it a simple one man task. Am considering making them= for sale if enough interest. I built it from scrap materials so don't know= costs yet. Will price if there are enough folks who want them. John Barrett Sent from my iPad On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "William A. Hogarty" wro= te: > Hello Greg: >=20 > I had completed my annual in May which included a retraction test.......HO= WEVER I did not remove the nose gear gas strut > to actually measure the pressure. in the strut My bad. After the inc= ident, I found it measured 55 PSI Enough to lower the > nose gear but but not enough to lock it overcenter. Actually there is no w= ay to make sure the strut is fully pressurized > without removing it. I recommend replacing the strut at each annual. >=20 > As far as the strakes go, I found them to be the best mod for the IV espec= ially for the price. The plane was pretty squirley on takeoff > especially if using 65 kts to rotate. I now start a slow rotation at 70 k= ts using a couple clicks of nose up and right rudder trim. The plane > seems much happier. I have attached a photo showing how easy there were t= o attach. . =20 >=20 > Did you build your plane? First flight yet? Any other questions? >=20 > Happy Building....Regards, Bill Hogarty >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Greg Milnar wrote: >> Hello Bill, >> =20 >> I am sorry to hear about your nose gear collapse. >> I was hoping to learn the cause from the lml blog to avoid bringing the t= opic up with you. >> My lVP is ready to fly but every time I read of someone having a bad day,= I ask myself again if everything has been proofed as well as possible. I di= d do the service bulletin bracket upgrade but I do not know so may lV's have= nose gear collapses. >> I notice that your plane has tail strakes. Do you notice a difference in= stability? >> Thank you for your time. >> =20 >> Greg Milnar >> 651-738-3117 >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >> =20 >=20 > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l --Apple-Mail-E440899A-66DB-4ADD-8D82-37D26B3CA321 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I recently removed the air strut refer= red to so I could test it.  It tested fine but then I spent a week tryi= ng to figure out a way to re install.  Have built a tool that makes it a= simple one man task.  Am considering making them for sale if enough in= terest.  I built it from scrap materials so don't know costs yet.
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Will price if there are enough folks who want them.

John Barrett

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "William A. Hogarty" <billhogarty@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Greg:

I had completed my annual in May which included a retracti= on test.......HOWEVER I did not remove the nose gear gas strut
to actually measure the pressure. in the strut    My bad. &= nbsp;  After the incident, I found it measured 55 PSI  Enough to l= ower the
nose gear but but not enough to lock it overcenter.  Ac= tually there is no way to make sure the strut is fully pressurized
without removing it.  I recommend replacing the strut at ea= ch annual.

As far as the strakes go, I found t= hem to be the best mod for the IV especially for the price.  The plane w= as pretty squirley on takeoff
especially if using 65 kt= s to rotate.  I now start a slow rotation at 70 kts using a couple clic= ks of nose up and right rudder trim.  The plane
seems much happier.  I have attached a photo showing ho= w easy there were to attach. .  

Did you build your plane?  First flight yet?  Any other q= uestions?

Happy Building....Regards, Bill Hogarty


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On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Greg Miln= ar <greg456pw@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bill,
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I am sorry to hear about your nose gear collapse.
I= was hoping to learn the cause from the lml blog to avoid bringing the topic= up with you.
My lVP is ready to fly but every time I read of someone having a bad da= y, I ask myself again if everything has been proofed as well as possibl= e. I did do the service bulletin bracket upgrade but I do not know so may lV= 's have nose gear collapses.
I notice that your plane has tail strakes.  Do you notice a differ= ence in stability?
Thank you for your time.
 
=
Greg Milnar


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