Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #64342
From: Todd Long <toddlong1@gmail.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Aspen
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:48:02 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
ASE runways are 15 33. Although not ideal by any means a jet could do a go around on 15. If the performance dictates if we couldn't we can not legally go there. Our landing weigh is also predicated on making a balked landing. When they fly the BAe 146 they occasionally do land 33. Want a fun place to go to try TEX. 

Typing and grammar errors courtesy of Siri and the iPhone.

On Jan 31, 2013, at 15:16, "Ed Gray" <egraylaw@swbell.net> wrote:

Aspen is not necessarily a one-way airport, but usually is.  If approaching from the east, a circling approach to runway 31 will work, but not good in a jet.  I have landed gliders on 31, but powered almost always cleared to 13.  Most prop planes can go around on 13, but lots of turning and climbing involved.  I doubt if a Lear or Gulfstream could go around on 13 without scraping the top of Buttermilk.  My beef is with the tower guy.  Landing 8000 feet behind the jet on 13 would have been much safer than the go-around, but he seemed more concerned about petty rules than with my safety.  I instinctively obeyed him and created a danger for myself, considering the unpredictable downdrafts in the area.  I should have continued my landing and told him to cram it after being safely on the ground.  Pilots are not required to obey the FAA directives if it creates peril.  We are the final judges of safety issues.  Tower guys at Aspen are sometimes more concerned with Aspen noise restrictions than with our safety.  FINAL THOUGHT: Many ga pilots are unreasonably scared of Aspen.  In good weather it is a great place to visit, and does not require special skills or performance—just expect lots of turbulence and make steep approaches.  I have been in Debonairs, Bonanzas, Mooney and the 360. Don’t recommend Skyhawks, etc.   Don’t skim the ridges, circle to line up and touch down in the middle of the runway.  Leaving, circle up to 11K before heading out.  Ed Gray  Dallas

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