X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:16:00 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.89] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6039310 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:37:22 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.237.89; envelope-from=egraylaw@swbell.net Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 20:36:47 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.205] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 20:36:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2013 20:36:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 733105.66894.bm@smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: M9lvWc0VM1mBrLC.74HirfIToKwYnxKmE85mlOE9t7pNSVE kMVPNE1vuwKvwd5cREYwyS3j3s87RWVuKFPRYDE4Jcv1Lj7iQwkS2_EMq0ph z_MOtaR.QlDMwTxKhItj3O5zSvBQG8Sdslw84RzOjHiZ5PbrDAj9dvgChDkW IwS8LCS1VC6vRl.ZChJsJODBnCFG7Px.LZs0z1XjpnjFO3ZXOfV.Smbk.x0Q WB6CqmiP2msjA1bQrwsDox5xJ_z1x0lUhnawOHhd14TqDvLThAGjD7n34zWr gpLnsUgLCMSavNBFZHGYnIFw88VS9AfIPDeGIcMYcDoofAPy3uhyUayEbeMg NhsQoJ5YUIdvLQhwHjNEWByJgMztVRwJ7Z0GvGZ1ZIO0NkQMRSfVXRxkoGmM iUZLh7vpXlVpA4IV5DTExZPnYIUvyfAKDcyLewcRWrdw5jQWaEL73kgIilLs v37beD3RuY1Zwvg2NRRzMcJjaW7al X-Yahoo-SMTP: 7MzGrViswBB3AheNxBPptcOw9pGuT47xSdXn7qNf1as- Received: from GerryGrayHP (egraylaw@99.98.246.182 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2013 12:36:47 -0800 PST Reply-To: From: "Ed Gray" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Aspen X-Original-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:36:45 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <00a701cdfff2$afdeb8b0$0f9c2a10$@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A8_01CDFFC0.654692A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac3/75SemCCGp0xMRV2ABHYpXeYcqQ== Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01CDFFC0.654692A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aspen is not necessarily a one-way airport, but usually is. If approaching from the east, a circling approach to runway 31 will work, but not good in a jet. I have landed gliders on 31, but powered almost always cleared to 13. Most prop planes can go around on 13, but lots of turning and climbing involved. I doubt if a Lear or Gulfstream could go around on 13 without scraping the top of Buttermilk. My beef is with the tower guy. Landing 8000 feet behind the jet on 13 would have been much safer than the go-around, but he seemed more concerned about petty rules than with my safety. I instinctively obeyed him and created a danger for myself, considering the unpredictable downdrafts in the area. I should have continued my landing and told him to cram it after being safely on the ground. Pilots are not required to obey the FAA directives if it creates peril. We are the final judges of safety issues. Tower guys at Aspen are sometimes more concerned with Aspen noise restrictions than with our safety. FINAL THOUGHT: Many ga pilots are unreasonably scared of Aspen. In good weather it is a great place to visit, and does not require special skills or performance-just expect lots of turbulence and make steep approaches. I have been in Debonairs, Bonanzas, Mooney and the 360. Don't recommend Skyhawks, etc. Don't skim the ridges, circle to line up and touch down in the middle of the runway. Leaving, circle up to 11K before heading out. Ed Gray Dallas ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01CDFFC0.654692A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Aspen is not necessarily a one-way airport, = but usually is. If approaching from the east, a circling approach = to runway 31 will work, but not good in a jet. I have landed = gliders on 31, but powered almost always cleared to 13. Most prop = planes can go around on 13, but lots of turning and climbing = involved. I doubt if a Lear or Gulfstream could go around on 13 = without scraping the top of Buttermilk. My beef is with the tower = guy. Landing 8000 feet behind the jet on 13 would have been much = safer than the go-around, but he seemed more concerned about petty rules = than with my safety. I instinctively obeyed him and created a = danger for myself, considering the unpredictable downdrafts in the = area. I should have continued my landing and told him to cram it = after being safely on the ground. Pilots are not required to obey = the FAA directives if it creates peril. We are the final judges of = safety issues. Tower guys at Aspen are sometimes more concerned = with Aspen noise restrictions than with our safety. FINAL THOUGHT: = Many ga pilots are unreasonably scared of Aspen. In good weather = it is a great place to visit, and does not require special skills or = performance—just expect lots of turbulence and make steep = approaches. I have been in Debonairs, Bonanzas, Mooney and the = 360. Don’t recommend Skyhawks, etc. Don’t skim = the ridges, circle to line up and touch down in the middle of the = runway. Leaving, circle up to 11K before heading out. Ed = Gray Dallas

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