X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc3-s35.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.110] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6037029 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:16:38 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.116.110; envelope-from=gary21sn@hotmail.com Received: from BLU172-DS16 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s35.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:16:03 -0800 X-EIP: [kb2SXkSrJjrjQ3/5yLYz9ezOmMZtQDzR] X-Originating-Email: [gary21sn@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: gary21sn@hotmail.com From: "Gary Edwards" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: Accident rate for LOBO members vs non-members In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:16:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_037F_01CDFEC2.0B6EE560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V10.50.0008.2100 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:16:03 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2013 16:16:03.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[19F33120:01CDFF05] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_037F_01CDFEC2.0B6EE560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well said Marv! Gary Edwards LNC2 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: marv@lancair.net=20 To: lml=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:27 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Accident rate for LOBO members vs non-members Posted for Scott E Keighan = >: So let me get this right. If I pay you $40 to join the LOBO I will be = a=20 better pilot then a non-LOBO member, cool. How exactly does that work?=20 Other then someone getting $40 richer, I don't see it. Is this like a = pyramid=20 scam? Don't insult non members and get a life. As a matter of fact. If the = LOBO is=20 so great, why are you even on the LML? I think the LOBO members should go to their own blog. I am sure they = have=20 one. Scott keighan 905 262 5997 [Whoa... lighten up. Since the LML had been operating successfully = for a number of years prior to the founding of LOBO and the LML would = likely already be in touch with most folks who would be interested in = joining and participating in LOBO, an agreement was forged which allowed = LOBO to use the LML as its communications arm. It was a logical = decision which would benefit both entities. Both organizations exist = for the benefit of the Lancair community, especially where safety is = involved. As for cost... if $40/year is too much to pay to an = organization dedicated to your safety and actively working to help = getting the Lancair fleet insured at better rates then don't join. = Also, don't participate in their discussions or learn anything from = their shared knowledge... at least that way you'll get what you paid = for. But don't throw stones at folks who are trying to help... that = doesn't get us anywhere. ]=20 =20 From: colyncase@earthlink.net Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:31:05 -0500 To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Accident rate for LOBO members vs non-members Dico, That's a good point. That's one reason we would like to get as many = Lancair=20 pilots on the LML and into LOBO as possible. It's largely a word of = mouth=20 process to get let people know about these two resources. Getting the = word=20 out to everyone is one of the "things we can do as a community" to = improve the=20 situation. =20 LOBO membership is $40 at www.lancairowners.com. (Marv would love contributions to keep the LML site going too!) Colyn On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Dico Reijers wrote:If the accident rate = for=20 Lancairs is 500x that of commercial aviation... do we have a break = down of=20 what the rate is of LOBO members vs. Non-members. I would hope that = by just=20 being a LOBO member and reading/learning from this group that the = accident=20 rate for us is more in line with the 300x experimental or even better = than=20 that.=20 Have we gone through the Lancair accidents to see if the PIC was a = LOBO=20 member. It would be interesting. -DIco --=20 Regards, Dico Reijers InternetWorks Ltd. 300 University Avenue Charlottetown PE, C1A 4M4 902-892-4671 (T) 888-368-9484 (F) www.internetworks.ca www.apartmentspei.com =20 -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_037F_01CDFEC2.0B6EE560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well said Marv!
 
Gary Edwards
LNC2
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Posted for Scott E = Keighan=20 <scottekeighan@sympatico.ca= >:

So=20 let me get this right. If I pay you $40 to join the LOBO I will be a=20
better pilot then a non-LOBO member, cool.
How exactly does = that work?=20
Other then someone getting $40 richer, I don't see it. Is this = like a=20 pyramid
scam?

Don't insult non members and get a life. As a = matter=20 of fact. If the LOBO is
so great, why are you even on the = LML?
I think=20 the LOBO members should go to their own blog. I am sure they have=20
one.
Scott keighan
905 262 5997

[Whoa... lighten up.=20  Since the LML had been operating successfully for a number of = years=20 prior to the founding of LOBO and the LML would likely already be in = touch=20 with most folks who would be interested in joining and participating = in LOBO,=20 an agreement was forged which allowed LOBO to use the LML as its=20 communications arm.  It was a logical decision which would = benefit both=20 entities.  Both organizations exist for the benefit of the = Lancair=20 community, especially where safety is involved.  As for cost... = if=20 $40/year is too much to pay to an organization dedicated to your = safety and=20 actively working to help getting  the Lancair fleet insured at = better=20 rates then don't join. Also, don't participate in their discussions or = learn=20 anything from their shared knowledge... at least that way you'll get = what you=20 paid for. But don't throw stones at folks who are trying to help... = that=20 doesn't get us anywhere.  <marv>    ]=20
 =20


From: colyncase@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, = 29 Jan=20 2013 22:31:05 -0500
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: = Accident rate for LOBO members vs non-members

Dico,
That's a = good=20 point.   That's one reason we would like to get as many = Lancair=20
pilots on the LML and into LOBO as = possible.    It's=20 largely a word of mouth
process to get let people know about these = two=20 resources.  Getting the word
out to everyone is one of = the=20 "things we can do as a community" to improve the =
situation.  =20
LOBO membership is $40 at www.lancairowners.com.
(Marv would = love=20 contributions to keep the LML site going too!)
Colyn
On Jan 29, = 2013, at=20 9:41 PM, Dico Reijers wrote:If the accident rate for
Lancairs is = 500x that=20 of commercial aviation... do we have a break down of
what the rate = is of=20 LOBO members vs. Non-members.  I would hope that by just =
being a=20 LOBO member and reading/learning from this group that the accident =
rate=20 for us is more in line with the 300x experimental or even better than=20
that.

Have we gone through the Lancair accidents to see if = the PIC=20 was a LOBO
member.  It would be = interesting.
-DIco

--=20
Regards,

Dico Reijers

InternetWorks Ltd.

300=20 University Avenue
Charlottetown
PE, C1A 4M4

902-892-4671=20 (T)
888-368-9484=20 = (F)

www.internetworks.ca
www.apartmentspei.com


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