X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6036483 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:05:54 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.42; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 551621C000122 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.119] (24-107-65-42.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.65.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 96EDDE000081; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:05:17 -0500 (EST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-B461C2D0-A561-489A-BADC-483331B2DCDC Message-Id: <34508FC5-3E8E-464C-BC8A-CB9CF9B22506@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: Re: [LML] Accident rate for LOBO members vs non-members Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:05:16 -0600 To: Lancair Mailing List x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1359551119; bh=ry66MbIIXj07Vcqq+cg9OmKNwc3CBx1rsPgeqg4iefg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ooHQsixN8foDT1zFKcP0ULByQhMv8tc35ZCvJa41cdFPawR2oLVh7CNvhoYGlb70M nSa6VHdjSl7V9iAbqTkU9Uemq7zV3IFPaxsSNBOGmAcfEzHvv1XbdT3kd+aOqzzYnb R2oJzDHOIDb0/wtylpmeJvxOumFKShfRvlWkEqBA= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:433434560:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290151091a8d79e8 X-AOL-IP: 24.107.65.42 --Apple-Mail-B461C2D0-A561-489A-BADC-483331B2DCDC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dico, You raise a good point. Last year there were six serious Lancair accidents w= ith ten fatalities. One involved a LOBO member. There have been three fatal a= ccidents involving members since 2008. I cannot recall the total since then.= I can give you a more complete picture later. Type club members (Lobo, Cirr= us, Bonanza, etc.) typically have an accident "rate" that is less than half o= f the overall numbers because they participate. The PIC in the latest accide= nt was not a member and did not attend the Sedona Lobo fly out where we had t= hree days of training and seminars and just good fun.=20 Jeff Sent from my iPad On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Dico Reijers wrote: > If the accident rate for Lancairs is 500x that of commercial aviation... d= o we have a break down of what the rate is of LOBO members vs. Non-members. = I would hope that by just being a LOBO member and reading/learning from thi= s group that the accident rate for us is more in line with the 300x experime= ntal or even better than that.=20 >=20 > Have we gone through the Lancair accidents to see if the PIC was a LOBO me= mber. It would be interesting. >=20 > -DIco >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Regards, >=20 > Dico Reijers >=20 > InternetWorks Ltd. > 300 University Avenue > Charlottetown > PE, C1A 4M4 >=20 > 902-892-4671 (T) > 888-368-9484 (F) >=20 > www.internetworks.ca > www.apartmentspei.com --Apple-Mail-B461C2D0-A561-489A-BADC-483331B2DCDC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Dico,

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You raise a good point. Last year there were six serious Lancair accide= nts with ten fatalities. One involved a LOBO member. There have been three f= atal accidents involving members since 2008. I cannot recall the total since= then. I can give you a more complete picture later. Type club members (Lobo= , Cirrus, Bonanza, etc.) typically have an accident "rate" that is less than= half of the overall numbers because they participate. The PIC in the latest= accident was not a member and did not attend the Sedona Lobo fly out where w= e had three days of training and seminars and just good fun. 

Jeff

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On Jan 29= , 2013, at 8:41 PM, Dico Reijers <dico@internetworks.ca> wrote:

If the accident rate for Lancairs is 500x that of commerci= al aviation... do we have a break down of what the rate is of LOBO members v= s. Non-members.  I would hope that by just being a LOBO member and read= ing/learning from this group that the accident rate for us is more in line w= ith the 300x experimental or even better than that. 

Have we gone through the Lancair accidents to see if the PIC was a= LOBO member.  It would be interesting.

-DIco<= /span>


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