X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:10:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com ([216.32.180.184] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6034141 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:49:45 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.32.180.184; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from mail180-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.219) by CO1EHSOBE006.bigfish.com (10.243.66.69) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:49:07 +0000 Received: from mail180-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail180-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40878400F5 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:49:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.245.5;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:CH1PRD0710HT003.namprd07.prod.outlook.com;RD:none;EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -2 X-BigFish: PS-2(zz9371I542Izz1ee6h1de0h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ahzz8275ch17326ahz2fh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh15d0h162dh1631h1758h18e1h1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail180-co1: domain of htii.com designates 157.56.245.5 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.245.5; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com; helo=CH1PRD0710HT003.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail180-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail180-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 1359427744651981_8562; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO1EHSMHS021.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.209]) by mail180-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93312A20047 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1PRD0710HT003.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (157.56.245.5) by CO1EHSMHS021.bigfish.com (10.243.66.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:49:04 +0000 Received: from CH1PRD0710MB367.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.11.248]) by CH1PRD0710HT003.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.152.38]) with mapi id 14.16.0263.000; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:49:03 +0000 From: Robert R Pastusek X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] A funny thing happened on short final! Thread-Topic: [LML] A funny thing happened on short final! Thread-Index: AQHN/XkYDW3NX+Pj60qcZ8rAaSYa8ZhfmUzA X-Original-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 02:49:02 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <41361035E6613244A377D5AC3BF5EFDD4A866007@CH1PRD0710MB367.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [166.147.113.67] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Return-Path: rpastusek@htii.com X-OriginatorOrg: htii.com Tom, I am not familiar with that engine, but it seems highly unlikely you could = actually generate those EGTs within the engine at the likely power setting.= My bet is that you have something starting to fail on the engine data comp= uter? Bob -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of N200= 87 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:01 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] A funny thing happened on short final! Folks Yesterday I had quite a start on short final on the ILS into Dulles. My MFD= started to complain wildly about high EGTs. My high limit is set to 1525 w= hich I never see in normal operations All cylinders on my io360 were starting to exceed my red line and climbing = rapidly. I had my Dukes boost pump on, my facet belly pump on and pressure= was 28psi. I switched tanks; no change. Naturally I was thinking about w= hat to do if the fan quits a half mile off the end. Since I am writing thi= s, it did not quit! This is the first time I have seen anything like this = in 200hrs on the airplane. By the time I got to the FBO, almost 1.5 mile taxi, I ran the engine up eve= ry which way, mag switch, low power high power etc and could not replicate = the problem. One thing I did notice however was that when I turned ON the = Facet at low power (13-15 inches MAP) and with the boost pump on, the line = pressure increased from 22psi to 28psi (no surprise there) but the indicate= d flow rate went from about 5 gal/hr to less than 2 with some noticeable in= crease in EGT. That surprised me and I never noticed it before, mainly bec= ause I never have only one of the pumps turned on at a time at takeoff and = landing I pulled the cowl and checked all was normal, no leaks etc. everything tigh= t no ice in the inlet and so on and then buttoned it up and went about my b= usiness. =20 Fast forward two hours, filed to get out of IAD, thorough engine runup, fli= pped the Facet pump on and off, same behavior as before. High power runup = with all pumps, good fuel flow, pressure and EGTs. Long taxi to runway, = decided on another mag check, all good, so good to go. Cleared for takeoff= , takeoff run fuel flow good 19gph, temps good, rotate, on my way.=20 Approach to home airport 1hr later, did not run backup pump, uneventful app= roach, temps normal So after all this, i am none the wiser on what happened on my approach to I= AD. The only thing that was different from what I might have done in the p= ast is that ATC asked me to hustle since I had a heavy in trail. I was sli= ding down the ils banister at 140kias until 3 miles out and it was shortly = after that that things went pear shaped. So I am thinking I had the thrott= le nearer to idle than usual and the engine was likely being driven by the = prop. So is it a fuel servo problem where it is not regulating flow correc= tly at the very low end with the front door almost shut. I would have expe= cted rich rather than the other way round but 4 high EGTs can't be wrong. = My servo is the standard Precision Airmotive RSA 5ad1 serviced 30hours ago = by an authorized shop. =20 Sooo.. Anybody have a similar experience with their engine or thought on wh= at might have caused the anomaly? I am pulling the flight data out of the mfd tonight to see if there is anyt= hing obvious there Thanks=20 Tom -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html