Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #64225
From: Terrence O'Neill <troneill@charter.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 4P AUGERING IN
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:49:57 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Grayhawk,

Yes.  
Also some might have noticed  the EAA's Flight Advisor Program (FA).  As I recall, the first year, it almost eliminated first-flight-accidents.  What it did was have the 'test pilot' go over with his FA some furnished forms that showed him how to review the new plane's wing loading and power loading against his recent- experience-plane's ... and when there was disparity, strongly recommend he get checked out for getting experience in something with power loading and wing loading similar to his new plane's. FWIW. 

I might sneak in an observation... that we're still talking about stall SPEEDS instead of stall ANGLE of attack.  I'm just sayin' ...

Terrence
LNC2  235/320 211AL


On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote:

Pete,
 
Uh, a slightly different view is that the Lancair accident pilot, relative to other pilots, is less safe.  Possibly because he/she didn't rise to the  demands of a high-performance plane.  IMHO
 
Would you expect a highly experienced 172 pilot to always successfully perform a carrier landing in a very safe F-15 without training and respect for the aircraft?  BTW, some don't make it through the training.
 
OK, that's a stretch. But the idea is the same.
 
I'll go back to my padded cell now,
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 1/28/2013 11:38:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, pete@leapfrogventures.com writes:

I don’t think the issue here is whether the IV can be flown safely.  It can.  Those of us on the forum are proof of such (full disclosure – I fly an ES-P).  The issue is how much margin of error the plane offers when the pilot makes a mistake.  Even the best of us make mistakes.  Whether those mistakes kill us or not is a function of how many we make in a row, how bad they are, and how much margin for error the plane gives us.  The first two are relatively independent of the plane you are flying.  The third is entirely dependent.  A plane like the IV, with very narrow margins of safety, will kill more pilots than a plane that has a much broader set of safety margins because pilots are human and make mistakes.

 

So, in my opinion, relative to most other planes, the Lancair is less safe.  Let’s stop pretending otherwise.  That is just part of the price we pay for high performance.  If you make a bad mistake, it is much more likely to kill you, which is why it has such a poor safety record.  This is not the plane’s fault.  Rather, it is because we as pilots can’t be perfect all of the time.

 

Pete

 


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