X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:47:02 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6033365 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:15:12 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.67; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RI7uzfjlFzKkPo+wmlQLLW4Etlvmw404D5LSSIJinZS4ulecaOhG0JSBlr7wU1YI; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.20.32.152] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TztE5-0003Cz-Mj for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:14:37 -0500 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-57-985071780 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 4P AUGERING IN X-Original-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:14:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <9C110302-83B4-4CFB-97BB-F5B19C164A54@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da9401b9ee5c28c912766fce465904a20b199350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.20.32.152 --Apple-Mail-57-985071780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Using the insurance companies is a great concept and works really well = with hi priced jets. =20 But when you consider the Lancair fleet and the current state of = insurance underwriting, it doesn't work. The most prominent reason for this is that many lancair pilots are = "self-insured" or carry only liability insurance. So while this may = work for the pilot, it does nothing to help the fleet. And the fleet = is what the underwriters are looking at when they set the rates. Then you get to the actual numbers. The actual numbers say that if our = fleet has more than one fatal a year, we are worse than all of = experimental aviation. =20 On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:41 PM, peter williams wrote: hi there No you are correct, no need for more FAA. but the real police, anyway, are the insurance companies and they can do = it for their own selfish interests. peter -----Original Message----- From: Charles Brown To: lml Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 1:30 pm Subject: [LML] Re: 4P AUGERING IN Do you *really* want the FAA to step into the Experimental Amateur Built = world with what's essentially a type rating requirement? This is a = first step towards setting performance and handling characteristic = limits on homebuilts, and then things like the Evo and IVP disappear and = you're left with TBM-700 and Piper Meridian. Grab your wallet. On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:59 AM, peter williams wrote: i wish that the FAA would impose something like they did to the MU2 = pilots; it would keep us all safer. --Apple-Mail-57-985071780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Using = the insurance companies is a great concept and works really well with hi = priced jets.    

But when you consider the = Lancair fleet and the current state of insurance underwriting, it = doesn't work.

The most prominent reason for = this is that many lancair pilots are "self-insured" or carry only = liability insurance.   So while this may work for the pilot, it = does nothing to help the fleet.    And the fleet is what the = underwriters are looking at when they set the = rates.

Then you get to the actual numbers. =   The actual numbers say that if our fleet has more than one fatal = a year, we are worse than all of experimental aviation. =  

On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:41 PM, peter = williams wrote:

hi there

No you are correct, no need for more FAA.
but the real police, anyway, are the = insurance companies and they can do it for their own selfish = interests.

peter



-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Brown <browncc1@verizon.net>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 1:30 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: 4P AUGERING IN
Do you *really* want the FAA to step into the Experimental Amateur = Built world with what's essentially a type rating requirement? =  This is a first step towards setting performance and handling = characteristic limits on homebuilts, and then things like the Evo and = IVP disappear and you're left with TBM-700 and Piper Meridian. =  Grab your wallet.
On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:59 AM, peter williams wrote:


i wish that the FAA would = impose something like they did to the = MU2 pilots; it would keep us all safer.

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