X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:45:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.157] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6031958 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:56:30 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.157; envelope-from=pbricker@att.net Received: from [98.139.44.98] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 19:55:56 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.113] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 19:55:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2013 19:55:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 317560.65442.bm@smtp115.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: nE_NnaYVM1mneEJ0qL0bGoYst9AHekYFOHZpa5FM4gvP_Vp ldBnKf_gkyBIcUD0VAs2gZjkh52X6SF5KaKBHaGXFuASGICQnbszKBZPGeFo FEWCyWMlRJxwUlWrrhuoLV3eQxvaNctrnWQyq.QBV8aHqDbjVfv1n5L9ovxr jXzx8DG3wX0Rn8UbFpektzp06sObM2pbCDaQwHEqihK5UJPjnBPiOLbFEa0t oxJdJsRAX2kM8rUYEhfxBjAiJ6TvCzDOSS5C48ZCEAb6ESGyMpa1JfTFB0Oa GoIzCNnzLg4FwBvHoHivFR5AHpXjKm2H.6ihyD170SaN2MGS5u_1VENPGt82 zg1ClkW4G7tdL7V2DqExgqD_lUEO3dLA0RErfd2ydklJFxWHfW_ScRVitEjQ LUBCtLDTeMC0ukhVsrOIN_lAJBRRtbu7TLgDDMVKS5akRBTAzMCp5jJV.ink VtQLJOmocHPvlQWp2tgMAMkyZhB6hhUJojqkmCKJoFNB2Kc2am93mGE34dOa ces69dbJ4x_dX8T_ozyCy4wE1rQx5F.uvWSBqkU9wkUfXCbVWXk0aeXocV2I .bhQb_NU- X-Yahoo-SMTP: E_DOnNaswBA_C3UUkqdGieqw9axmS6GTFECYQXU- Received: from [192.168.1.69] (pbricker@76.206.248.200 with login) by smtp115.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2013 11:55:56 -0800 PST User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.2.120421 X-Original-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:55:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [LML] Also, does the Primer work? From: Paul Bricker X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Also, does the Primer work? In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit George, Questions I also had while building my ES. First, there is a bypass circuit on the engine driven fuel pump. That's how the electrical pump can get fuel to the engine when the engine driven pump fails. The priming works by just forcing fuel through the spider and injectors. It pools in the intake until it runs out the overflow ports (and on the hanger floor, tarmack, nose wheel, etc.) I had a document on the flow rate/pressure for the Dukes pump in both Low and High modes, but I can't find it now. As I remember in the low pressure mode it would provide more fuel then I needed for cruise LOP, but not max power at sea level. Since this was to allow we to get somewhere to land I considered it sufficient. I ran an IO-550N. If you're running TSIO you may need to plan on reduced power. I originally wired my AC with the LOW-OFF-HIGH switch, and went to OFF-LOW later with a mom PRIME button. Too much fuel forced into the 550 can make it stop running, so a momentary HIGH seemed safer to me. From what I've read one failure mode of the altitude compensating fuel pump can be very dangerous. There are threads on this in the archives. In the ES at least HPAT is (was?) training to take-off with LOW boost ON. It always made sense to me. I don't know about other Lancairs. Paul Bricker On 1/27/13 10:30 AM, "George Wehrung" wrote: >As a continuation to my previous post, referencing the build manual >chapters 14 and 23: > >Chapter 23: wiring: denotes a Single Pole Double Throw rocker switch for >the LOW-OFF-HIGH positions of the fuel boost pump. > >Chapter 14: Firewall Forward, depicting the fuel flow does not show a >separate routing for the fuel primer circuit. So how does the primer >function work? Is it merely pushing a higher volume of fuel through the >circuit? I know it's necessary for hot starts to quickly circulate the >cooler fuel to the manifold but does it somehow bypass the gascolator and >the engine driven fuel pump? This would make sense if it did as some >aircraft call for pushing in the primer and possibly holding it in to >keep the engine running in the event of an engine driven fuel pump >failure. > >So then why do I only have a low selection of the boost pump? Should I >replace my boost pump switch with a three-position LOW-OFF-HIGH switch. >Should I have the boost pump on LOW for takeoff, descent and landing? > >Thanks again > >George > > > > >-- >For archives and unsub >http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html