X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:42:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6031967 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:39:16 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.41; envelope-from=peterpaw@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6E34F1C000096 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mma004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mma004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.191.141]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4AC7EE000081 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:38:43 -0500 (EST) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] safety In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: peter williams X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CFCADD0C8B8C9C_1708_85076_webmail-m001.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37309-STANDARD Received: from 69.204.230.119 by webmail-m001.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.83) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:38:42 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CFCADD0C82071C-1708-27C2B@webmail-m001.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.204.230.119] X-Original-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:38:43 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:445964704:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca510582437dda This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CFCADD0C8B8C9C_1708_85076_webmail-m001.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" hi there i agree and it the reason that i started this conversation. this informatio= n need to be out there to all pilots of these airplanes. peter =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Ed Gray To: lml Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 6:59 am Subject: [LML] safety STATING THE OBVIOUS=E2=80=94When a new pilot, 46 years ago, I did some scud= -running and cloud dodging in Skyhawks. When I moved up to Bonanzas, I rea= lized this is stupid in fast cross country planes, so I got the IFR rating.= Lancairs are all fast and can fly through several weather systems in no t= ime. Plus, they are slick and can get you in trouble quickly if not level.= I believe we should exert MAXIMUM pressure on fellow Lancair pilots to ge= t IFR ratings. These birds are not suited for amateur pilots, and the stat= s show it. PS about VFR on top. Many times I have encountered unexpected = weather and asked Center for a Pop-up clearance. They always respond quick= ly and usually with a gps direct clearance. Ed Gray L360 Dallas =20 ----------MB_8CFCADD0C8B8C9C_1708_85076_webmail-m001.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" hi there
i agree and it the reaso= n that i started this conversation. this information need to be out there to all pilots of these airplanes.

peter



-----= Original Message-----
From: Ed Gray <egraylaw@swbell.net>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 6:59 am
Subject: [LML] safety

STATING THE OBVIO= US=E2=80=94When a new pilot, 46 years ago, I did some scud-running and clou= d dodging in Skyhawks.  When I moved up to Bonanzas, I realized this i= s stupid in fast cross country planes, so I got the IFR rating.  Lanca= irs are all fast and can fly through several weather systems in no time.&nb= sp; Plus, they are slick and can get you in trouble quickly if not level.&n= bsp; I believe we should exert MAXIMUM pressure on fellow Lancair pilots to= get IFR ratings.  These birds are not suited for amateur pilots, and = the stats show it.  PS about VFR on top.  Many times I have encou= ntered unexpected weather and asked Center for a Pop-up clearance.  Th= ey always respond quickly and usually with a gps direct clearance.  Ed= Gray  L360 Dallas
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